Squad rotation

Arkwright · Sep 21, 2014

I really don't get it.

First, the manager needs to find his best starting XI before even thinking about making minor adjustments depending on opposition.

Second, how can the players get use to each others style of play or thinking when we make so many changes in every game.

The players are professionals and should be able to play two games a week, in days gone by squads were much smaller and players regularly played in every game of the season now they play one get dropped to the bench and then recalled to start the next week, is this good for the players confidence. The only positions we don't rota are the centre halves and the keeper if they can play every minute of every game why can't the midfielders and strikers.

Please can we just find our best starting XL and stick to it.

I'm sure in the 70's or 80's Liverpool won the league with fifteen players, has the game changed that much over the years, I think not.

Herr Tubthumper · Sep 21, 2014

What I don't understand is Hyppia was banging on about saving legs a week ago. First, it's only the middle of September so why is there a need to save legs? Second, they'd just had a two week break. By all means field a second string team in the league cup but there is absolutely no need to "save legs" otherwise. If a footballer isn't fit to play 46 league games and a handful of FA Cup fixtures then he's literally not fit for purpose.

Lifelong Supporter · Sep 21, 2014

They would not have such tired legs if they were winning would they? Massage the truth however you wish but he is changing the team around because they are not getting results and not playing well as a team.

Tiredness can be state of mind and borne out of confusion !!!

I thought generally our best players yesterday were those who were with the club last season and before. Let's face it the new recruits have been pretty much a disaster considering the financial investment in them.

KZNSeagull · Sep 21, 2014

Herr Tubthumper said:
What I don't understand is Hyppia was banging on about saving legs a week ago. First, it's only the middle of September so why is there a need to save legs? Second, they'd just had a two week break. By all means field a second string team in the league cup but there is absolutely no need to "save legs" otherwise. If a footballer isn't fit to play 46 league games and a handful of FA Cup fixtures then he's literally not fit for purpose.

Agreed up to a point. What he needs to do is choose his best 11, play them for several games together on the trot, then make 1 or 2 changes a game to give certain players a rest as required.
What I do think he needs to do is decide whether he is started with 1 or 2 DM's. Holla is key, but not sure Crofts and JFC are up to helping him out. Our best performance so far was when Bruno played next to him, so either go back to that, or start with Holla and Ince/Toko and build the rest of the team around that.

BensGrandad · Sep 21, 2014

It would appear that JFC is the first name on the team sheet irrespective of how he plays, not that he has done too bad recently.

Arkwright · Sep 21, 2014

KZNSeagull said:
Agreed up to a point. What he needs to do is choose his best 11, play them for several games together on the trot, then make 1 or 2 changes a game to give certain players a rest as required.
What I do think he needs to do is decide whether he is started with 1 or 2 DM's. Holla is key, but not sure Crofts and JFC are up to helping him out. Our best performance so far was when Bruno played next to him, so either go back to that, or start with Holla and Ince/Toko and build the rest of the team around that.

This is my point, find your best team and select it every week, yes adjust a couple of position depending on opposition but five changes is just plain daft.
Play the front two together for four / five games and back them to produce the goods, not one in week and one out week.

I would even go further and reduce the squad size and bring in quality, yes it's a gamble but with the back room staff we have giving the players a first class fitness regime we should have fewer injuries and players being able to play more games.

midnight_rendezvous · Sep 21, 2014

BensGrandad said:
It would appear that JFC is the first name on the team sheet irrespective of how he plays, not that he has done too bad recently.

He's nothing if not consistent. Even if that consistency is playing simple sideways and backwards passes. Have to say he played an absolutely beautiful ball to the back post in the second half yesterday. If someone got a head on that it would have been the pass of the season.

Seagulls1984 · Sep 21, 2014

U get out of this league by keeping a settled 11, not by changing the team every game.

HawkTheSeagull · Sep 21, 2014

I thought this is one of the reasons we have pre-season friendlies, to rotate your squad around and decide on a team.

This is one of our downfalls so far - we havent got a settled team.

Arkwright · Sep 21, 2014

HawkTheSeagull said:
I thought this is one of the reasons we have pre-season friendlies, to rotate your squad around and decide on a team.

This is one of our downfalls so far - we havent got a settled team.

Pre season for whatever reasons was a complete shambles. Most of the players first game was the first league game, this is something the club needs to address for future seasons and give the manager a chance to find his best formation and XI (and of course stick to it).

LamieRobertson · Sep 21, 2014

Arkwright said:
I really don't get it.

First, the manager needs to find his best starting XI before even thinking about making minor adjustments depending on opposition.

Second, how can the players get use to each others style of play or thinking when we make so many changes in every game.

The players are professionals and should be able to play two games a week, in days gone by squads were much smaller and players regularly played in every game of the season now they play one get dropped to the bench and then recalled to start the next week, is this good for the players confidence. The only positions we don't rota are the centre halves and the keeper if they can play every minute of every game why can't the midfielders and strikers.

Please can we just find our best starting XL and stick to it.

I'm sure in the 70's or 80's Liverpool won the league with fifteen players, has the game changed that much over the years, I think not.

I doubt he knows his best 11 at the mo...but I agree the chopping and changing can't b doing a lot for building up a pattern of play etc

Cadiz Seagull · Sep 21, 2014

I'm not saying I agree with this, but if Sami is trying to work out what his best team is how else is he to do that other than by making changes each game?

LamieRobertson · Sep 21, 2014

Cadiz Seagull said:
I'm not saying I agree with this, but if Sami is trying to work out what his best team is how else is he to do that other than by making changes each game?

Play roughly the same team for 2/3 games?

Arkwright · Sep 21, 2014

Cadiz Seagull said:
I'm not saying I agree with this, but if Sami is trying to work out what his best team is how else is he to do that other than by making changes each game?

In training! Play what he feels is his best side against the rest for hour after hour and then put practice into play.

BensGrandad · Sep 21, 2014

We have a new training academy could he not arrange closed doors friendlies to try out combinatiions of players or even the Capital One Cup. Playing against young and 2nd tier premier sides we give him the chance to experiment.

PILTDOWN MAN · Sep 21, 2014

Cadiz Seagull said:
I'm not saying I agree with this, but if Sami is trying to work out what his best team is how else is he to do that other than by making changes each game?

But he drops players for the sake of dropping them. Ince played well at Ipswich and it allowed Hola to get forward more. So he drops him.

BensGrandad · Sep 21, 2014

PILTDOWN MAN said:
But he drops players for the sake of dropping them. Ince played well at Ipswich and it allowed Hola to get forward more. So he drops him.

We agree on something well done. In the event of a counterattack it also gave us more protection to the wing backs Holla on the right and Ince on the left. Squad rotation is a word used for I dont know my best team after many attempts.

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