2.6% of UK population could break up the Union...

nicko31 · Aug 25, 2014

Its a crazy situation. I blame Labour for allowing them to have their own parliament in the first place.

If the Scots vote yes, the rest of the UK needs a vote to decide also...

The Wizard · Aug 25, 2014

Nah sod em. Does anybody actually like Scotland anyway? They'll be up shit creek if they do leave the union anyway, let them do it :thumbsup:

dangull · Aug 25, 2014

Scotland is quite big on the map considering its small population. Most of them move south anyway, a bit like most of the Irish emigrate here or the USA.

nicko31 · Aug 25, 2014

dangull said:
Scotland is quite big on the map considering its small population. Most of them move south anyway, a bit like most of the Irish emigrate here or the USA.

A whole lot more will move south if there is a YES vote. Can't see many from the rest of Union moving north

lawros left foot · Aug 25, 2014

If Billy Davies is sent home, I'm all for it

dingodan · Aug 25, 2014

What you are effectively saying is that they are such a minority that the majority should be able to force them to be part of the Union whether they like it or not.

A union is supposed to be a voluntary arrangement, you can't have a union by force. Freedom means being part of something if you want to, and not being part of it if you don't.

You could also look at these statistics another way, after the Union is "broken up", 97.3% of it will remain.

ATFC Seagull · Aug 25, 2014

So by your logic Britain shouldn't be allowed to hold a referendum on EU membership?

nicko31 · Aug 25, 2014

dingodan said:
What you are effectively saying is that they are such a minority that the majority should be able to force them to be part of the Union whether they like it or not.

A union is supposed to be a voluntary arrangement, you can't have a union by force. Freedom means being part of something if you want to, and not being part of it if you don't.

You could also look at these statistics another way, after the Union is "broken up", 97.3% of it will remain.

As far as I'm concerned Scotland has about as much right to leave as Cornwall. If we hadn't gone down the devolution route we would never have got ourselves into this crazy situation.

dingodan · Aug 25, 2014

nicko31 said:
As far as I'm concerned Scotland has about as much right to leave as Cornwall. If we hadn't gone down the devolution route we would never have got ourselves into this crazy situation.

Well you aren't talking about a union then.

Yoda · Aug 25, 2014

What I find crazy is that Scots living in the rest of the UK are not permitted to vote, but those elsewhere are. How is that a fair representation?

Coldeanseagull · Aug 25, 2014

One thing I don't understand, is why do people want to talk about this stuff? Also, why talk about it on what I regard as a football forum? I'm sure there are other more suitable places to discuss politics with like minded people.
Yes I know, I'm not being forced to read this thread, but I've found through other forums I belong to that the quickest way to upset people and cause a shit storm, is to discuss political stuff and religion.
Maybe it's just because I don't understand it all or don't have even a passing interest in the content matter that makes me ignorant or oblivious to what is going on outside my own little world? :shrug:

studio150 · Aug 25, 2014

If they leave does this mean the return of the Anglo-Scottish Cup?

The Birdman · Aug 26, 2014

Will Scots be allowed to work in the Uk without a work visa permit and will Scotland be in the common market. What about the Scots working in the Uk now. Also how many English work and live in Scotland. I believe in the union my ancestors where Scottish but we are so integrated now however we should devolve more power to the Ni Welsh and Scottish parliament that's the answer.

ElderlyWilliam · Aug 26, 2014

Give it a couple of years, and they will want to come back, after they have drunk it all!

nicko31 · Aug 26, 2014

Yoda said:
What I find crazy is that Scots living in the rest of the UK are not permitted to vote, but those elsewhere are. How is that a fair representation?

The whole thing is broken. What's more WTF are 16 and 17 year olds allowed to vote? Anyone asked CMS about it?

Seagull on the wing · Aug 26, 2014

Couple of thoughts...if the Scots leave...does that make us have too many foreign players with CMS and GG.

Also the Labour vote would be decimated...Labour have more Scottish MPs than anyone else...swathes of Scottish voters of Labour live in Scotland...always a puzzle that they can have MPs in the English parliament but we cannot have any English MPs in the Scottish parliament.

And that Alex Salmond is a very naughty boy!

Seasidesage · Aug 26, 2014

Close the door on your way out Jocko...

wardy wonder land · Aug 26, 2014

i read / heard somewhere that the remainder of the the UK would be £400 per year better off without the Scots...............

and (shhh) if you draw the border line out to sea from Berwick 45% of the oil remains in the english domain............

withdeanwombat · Aug 26, 2014

Will Berwick Rangers go straight into League two, or will it be the Vanarama Conference for them ?

Cian · Aug 26, 2014

Seagull on the wing said:
Couple of thoughts...if the Scots leave...does that make us have too many foreign players with CMS and GG.

I imagine there'll be an exemption like the one that existed pre-EU free movement rules for Irish players; then if Scotland gets in to the EU and the remaining UK doesn't leave it'd become irrelevant anyway - its limits on non-EU players.

Seagull on the wing said:
Also the Labour vote would be decimated...Labour have more Scottish MPs than anyone else...swathes of Scottish voters of Labour live in Scotland...always a puzzle that they can have MPs in the English parliament but we cannot have any English MPs in the Scottish parliament.

I suspect this might happen even if they vote No - there's definitely a decent number of people who vote SNP for Holyrood and Labour for Westminster but with any further devolution at all while remaining in the UK they may swap to SNP for both.

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