Kazenga Lua Lua - MUST NOT start!!!

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Blue and White Tiger

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Jul 6, 2010

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #1

Every time he come's off of the bench he makes a positive impact (see Cheltenham and Leeds for example.)

Every time he starts he struggles to make any impact at all. (see numerous games including Birmingham and Wednesday.)

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Bench

 

Tony Le Mesmer

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South Wales

• Aug 19, 2014

• #2

I concur

 

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TomandJerry

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #3

There is something of substance to this

 

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London Irish

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #4

Yawn - he won't hang around here as a permanent bench player - if you want him to clear off, pigeonhole him

 

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BensGrandad

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Jul 13, 2003

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Haywards Heath

• Aug 19, 2014

• #5

This appears to be when he excels, as has been said many times in the past. I thought players were only interested in their wages so shouldnt worry him.

 

Monkey Man

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Neither here nor there

• Aug 19, 2014

• #6

Always better as an impact sub. If that's pigeonholing, so be it. It's also the truth.

 

Sheebo

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Jul 13, 2003

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #7

Needs to play wide though I maintain that. Anyone who watched tonight was he wide it central?

 

Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010

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Hove

• Aug 19, 2014

• #8

What we need to do, is not accept he's better off the bench, we need to improve our coaching / tactics / instructions, whatever it maybe to get the best out of LuaLua from the start of games.

I'm not disagreeing he appears to be better off the bench, but we need to turn that into 90mins every game, not 20 or 30.

 

nwgull

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Jul 25, 2003

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Manchester

• Aug 19, 2014

• #9

He has played some very good games over 90 mins during the past 3 seasons, so it would seem a waste of talent to have him always come on from the bench. Horses for courses.

 

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bhawoddy

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #10

He's a decent impact player IMO..

 

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stss30

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Apr 24, 2008

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #11

Bold Seagull said:

What we need to do, is not accept he's better off the bench, we need to improve our coaching / tactics / instructions, whatever it maybe to get the best out of LuaLua from the start of games.

I'm not disagreeing he appears to be better off the bench, but we need to turn that into 90mins every game, not 20 or 30.

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It may not just be a case of 'improving our coaching'. IIRC he failed a medical before joining us and seems to have long term injury problems that reoccur now and then. It may be a case of play 20/30 mins at 100% or play the whole game at 50% or something similar.

 

Blackadder

Brighton Bhuna Boy

Jul 6, 2003

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Haywards Heath

• Aug 19, 2014

• #12

London Irish said:

Yawn - he won't hang around here as a permanent bench player - if you want him to clear off, pigeonhole him

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Clear off to be an impact player elsewhere?

 

Bold Seagull

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Mar 18, 2010

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #13

stss30 said:

It may not just be a case of 'improving our coaching'. IIRC he failed a medical before joining us and seems to have long term injury problems that reoccur now and then. It may be a case of play 20/30 mins at 100% or play the whole game at 50% or something similar.

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I did say 'whatever it maybe' I wasn't being specific to any particular reason. I find it hard to believe the possibility that we have a player who can only manage 100% play for 30mins but not 90, sounds a bit far fetched to be honest.

 

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stss30

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Apr 24, 2008

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #14

Bold Seagull said:

I did say 'whatever it maybe' I wasn't being specific to any particular reason. I find it hard to believe the possibility that we have a player who can only manage 100% play for 30mins but not 90, sounds a bit far fetched to be honest.

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Hardly. If he has a long term injury he has to be managed appropriately, there's hardly any point him playing 90 minutes 3 games in a row then being out for a month.

 

Bold Seagull

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• Aug 19, 2014

• #15

stss30 said:

Hardly. If he has a long term injury he has to be managed appropriately, there's hardly any point him playing 90 minutes 3 games in a row then being out for a month.

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There is a massive difference between managing a players game time where you restrict their mins to prevent injury then actually stating a player can only manage 100% for 30mins. I don't believe it has anything to do with his fitness / injury status to be honest, but more likely to do with how we start cautiously, slowly and narrow in a lot of games. We need to change this if we're going to get the best out of him.

If he is carry a long term injury like you say - someone should stop him doing his double back flips after he scores!

 

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Baaaald

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Aug 7, 2011

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Haywards Heath

• Aug 19, 2014

• #16

Totally agree with this.

 

Not Andy Naylor

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Seven Dials

• Aug 19, 2014

• #17

Rohan Ince also made a great run from midfield that ended with him hitting the post after coming on as a substitute. He's a player of immense potential, but hasn't looked completely at it this season. So if benching a player makes him even more determined to do well when he gets the chance, then I'm all for it.

 

Kazenga <3

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Feb 28, 2010

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Team c/r HQ

• Aug 19, 2014

• #18

I was baffled when he ran through and was 1v1 with the last defender 30 yards from goal, and just stopped. Bizarre when he had the guy for pace easily and any foul would be a straight red. Be brave Kaz ffs!