General Election 2015

MattBackHome · Aug 12, 2014

Just look at his face.

Ernest · Aug 12, 2014

Seeing as the Tories need at least a 4 or 5% lead over Labour to win a majority it will be interesting where this sudden surge in votes will come from, a Tory party in disarray, the leader sunning himself in Portugal despite half the world being at war and the only policy they can come up with is more demonisation of benefit claimants.

As the Tories couldn't win in 2010 despite their being the most unpopular PM of all time against them how the hell will they win in 2015 when the whole country knows what a nasty, devisive, spiteful, incompetent government they are.

Bold Seagull · Aug 12, 2014

peterward said:
me to, Labour could win, seems there are enough tribal lemmings who are willing to stick their head in the sand and overlook the fact they left government having bankrupted the country (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8688470.stm) just like they did in 79. pretending that all the economic pains of recent years are the result of cleaning up a catastrophic economic inheritance left behind by Labour...... against Economic wizz Ed Balls constantly repeating that reducing the deficit "will not work" and there will be "zero growth", that was all ditched for the next soundbite when it proved to be bollox, "cost of living crisis"..... then as the economic situation improved further and our economy is the fastest growing in the western world....what will happen to our pathetic and impractical "energy freeze" soundbites..... exactly was was predicted when the ridiculous soundbite was first pushed....... with falling wholesale energy prices up to a third cheaper the energy suppliers dont drop the price to consumers.....they "freeze them" in anticipation of red ed's impending freeze, so every household today is paying up to 33% to much in anticipation of this ridiculous policy........

Yes Labour could win and bankrupt the country once more with centralised, debt riden, tax raising mismangement.... if only, if only they had picked a leader who was a bullied nerdy berk and had more charisma than a potatoe.

You sound every bit the tribal lemming to be honest...

Bozza · Aug 12, 2014

Ernest said:
Seeing as the Tories need at least a 4 or 5% lead over Labour to win a majority it will be interesting where this sudden surge in votes will come from, a Tory party in disarray, the leader sunning himself in Portugal despite half the world being at war and the only policy they can come up with is more demonisation of benefit claimants.

As the Tories couldn't win in 2010 despite their being the most unpopular PM of all time against them how the hell will they win in 2015 when the whole country knows what a nasty, devisive, spiteful, incompetent government they are.

Maybe. Labour won't win outright (either) though. That's about as far as I'm willing to go this far out.

seagullsovergrimsby · Aug 12, 2014

warmleyseagull said:
Think you will find that a seven point lead for the oppo this close to an election is historically very low. There is always a swing back to the incumbent in the actual vote. Labour have a big advantage that their support is more concentrated (and constituencies on average smaller) but 7 does not sound anywhere near enough to be more than largest party at best. LDs may lose a lot of seats this time; I foresee a minority government struggling for several months as in 1974 then another election.

You do realise that a projection based on the latest opinion poll indicates a 32 seat majority for Labour with a 7 point lead ?

peterward · Aug 12, 2014

Goldstone Rapper said:
It'll be a hung parliament with Tories and UKIP running the show in a minority coalition government.

Clegg will resign after the Lib Dems' poor showing.

The era of Green Labour begins with Caroline Lucas as leader of new force in British left politics.

do you think UKIP will really win seats GR? i dont see it in a general election personally

Curious Orange · Aug 12, 2014

Bozza said:
Ed Milliband leading this great nation? Ha ha ha ha.

The Unions really stiffed the Labour party when they backed the wrong brother.

portslade seagull · Aug 12, 2014

Bozza said:
Ed Milliband leading this great nation? Ha ha ha ha.

o

God help us

Butch Willykins · Aug 12, 2014

I doubt the survey was fair, just look at the dates they conducted it. An awful lot of Tory voters will be away enjoying a well earned holiday.

peterward · Aug 12, 2014

Bold Seagull said:
You sound every bit the tribal lemming to be honest...

Voted Labour in 97, 01........ gave them benefit of doubt before they started illegal war and then the truth of their economic mismanagement started to erode the constant spinning.

Goldstone Rapper · Aug 12, 2014

peterward said:
do you think UKIP will really win seats GR? i dont see it in a general election personally

I think a lot of people will be surprised next year. They're going to have more seats than the Greens, I think.

CheeseRolls · Aug 12, 2014

peterward said:
me to, Labour could win, seems there are enough tribal lemmings who are willing to stick their head in the sand and overlook the fact they left government having bankrupted the country (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8688470.stm) just like they did in 79. pretending that all the economic pains of recent years are not the result of cleaning up a catastrophic economic mismanagement inheritance left behind by Labour...... against Economic wizz Ed Balls constantly repeating that reducing the deficit "will not work" and there will be "zero growth", that was all ditched for the next soundbite when it proved to be bollox, "cost of living crisis"..... then as the economic situation improved further and our economy is the fastest growing in the western world....lets overlook the pathetic and impractical "energy freeze" soundbites..... be because exactly what was predicted when the ridiculous soundbite was first pushed is now happening....... with falling wholesale energy prices up to a third cheaper than 1 year ago, the energy suppliers don't drop the price to consumers.....they "freeze them" in anticipation of red ed's impending energy freeze to protect their profits, so every household today is paying up to 33% to much in anticipation of this ridiculous policy being implemented........ its economics for idiots

Yes Labour could win and bankrupt the country once more with centralised, debt riden, tax raising mismangement.... if only, if only they had picked a leader with some workable policies who was less like a bullied nerd and had a bit more charisma than a potatoe.

peter, I take it you were educated under a labour government - enough said.

seagullsovergrimsby · Aug 12, 2014

Goldstone Rapper said:
I think a lot of people will be surprised next year. They're going to have more seats than the Greens, I think.

Which constituency do you think UKIP will win ?

peterward · Aug 12, 2014

Ernest said:
Seeing as the Tories need at least a 4 or 5% lead over Labour to win a majority it will be interesting where this sudden surge in votes will come from, a Tory party in disarray, the leader sunning himself in Portugal despite half the world being at war and the only policy they can come up with is more demonisation of benefit claimants.

As the Tories couldn't win in 2010 despite their being the most unpopular PM of all time against them how the hell will they win in 2015 when the whole country knows what a nasty, devisive, spiteful, incompetent government they are.

Hold on a sec Enrest, they introduced gay marriage..... party of the rich, could be argued.... you may not like them, but to call them incompetent is disingenious, you cannot back it up......... they inherited a calamity, a financially bankrupt country with the worst economic forecasts of any major western country, they may well leave in 2015, and if they do they will again leave an economy that is better than any western nations, with higher growth than any other (from all independent economic forecasters)... and these was born of policiy decisions that Labour invested all their economic credibility in saying "would not work", its FACT it has worked, its been tough, but its far tougher now in France and we would be where they are as Balls Economic model and ideas were similar to Hollandes.

"Incompetent" is not a word any tribal Labour supporter can cast with a straight face

beorhthelm · Aug 12, 2014

Goldstone Rapper said:
I think a lot of people will be surprised next year. They're going to have more seats than the Greens, I think.

they wont. the bulk of the UKIP vote will switch back to Tory/Labour as soon as its a real election.

peterward · Aug 12, 2014

Both Labour 70's, and tories 80's..... degree tories and masters in 02 Labour.... your point is?

Ernest · Aug 12, 2014

peterward said:
Hold on a sec Enrest, they introduced gay marriage..... party of the rich, could be argued.... you may not like them, but to call them incompetent is disingenious, you cannot back it up......... they inherited a calamity, a financially bankrupt country with the worst economic forecasts of any major western country, they may well leave in 2015, and if they do they will again leave an economy that is better than any western nations, with higher growth than any other (from all independent economic forecasters)... and these was born of policiy decisions that Labour invested all their economic credibility in saying "would not work", its FACT it has worked, its been tough, but its far tougher now in France and we would be where they are as Balls Economic model and ideas were similar to Hollandes.

"Incompetent" is not a word any tribal Labour supporter can cast with a straight face

How much has been wasted on Universal Credit ? What about Camerons targets on immigration ? Those went well didn't they

Ernest · Aug 12, 2014

seagullsovergrimsby said:
Which constituency do you think UKIP will win ?

The Bunker, Berlin

jonny.rainbow · Aug 12, 2014

peterward said:
me to, Labour could win, seems there are enough tribal lemmings who are willing to stick their head in the sand and overlook the fact they left government having bankrupted the country (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8688470.stm) just like they did in 79. pretending that all the economic pains of recent years are not the result of cleaning up a catastrophic economic mismanagement inheritance left behind by Labour...... against Economic wizz Ed Balls constantly repeating that reducing the deficit "will not work" and there will be "zero growth", that was all ditched for the next soundbite when it proved to be bollox, "cost of living crisis"..... then as the economic situation improved further and our economy is the fastest growing in the western world....lets overlook the pathetic and impractical "energy freeze" soundbites..... be because exactly what was predicted when the ridiculous soundbite was first pushed is now happening....... with falling wholesale energy prices up to a third cheaper than 1 year ago, the energy suppliers don't drop the price to consumers.....they "freeze them" in anticipation of red ed's impending energy freeze to protect their profits, so every household today is paying up to 33% to much in anticipation of this ridiculous policy being implemented........ its economics for idiots

Yes Labour could win and bankrupt the country once more with centralised, debt riden, tax raising mismangement.... if only, if only they had picked a leader with some workable policies who was less like a bullied nerd and had a bit more charisma than a potatoe.

You have conveniently ignored the fact that we were observing significant growth after the worldwide crash under the previous government.

Following the coalition's implementation of their economic policy, we saw a massive slump, with the economy going backwards.

You can call 'cost of living' a sound bite if you like but many workers are not seeing their salaries increase at the same rate as their rent and bills, particularly in the cities generating the most money for our economy.

CheeseRolls · Aug 12, 2014

Goldstone Rapper said:
I think a lot of people will be surprised next year. They're going to have more seats than the Greens, I think.

So more than the one the Greens have now or post the election ? It is the one place, where a UKIP vote really counts for something, so it is rational that people who support the UKIP agenda should vote for them, will this play out though ? There is every chance people will focus back on the main parties, especially if the result looks close.

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