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What do thieves do with cars they steal ?



hopkins

Banned
Nov 6, 2003
1,189
Brighton
Do they change the plates and use false log book, do they go abroad or to a scrap yard ?

Sisters car got nicked but log book thrown out and all the stuff in the boot was dumped.
 




father_and_son

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Jan 23, 2012
4,646
Under the Police Box
(I work in the insurance industry)

Depends what the car is...

High end - BMW, Merc, RangeRover, etc and it will be in a container (the metal blocking most tracking devices) and be on its way out of the country within hours - Africa is the most common destination.

Middle Value - VIN numbers removed or replaced and new identity cloned from another similar car. Then it will be sold in the UK to some mug. It'll be advertised privately, sold from the street outside a house from someone only giving a mobile number. Nothing will be legit. If you buy a car like this tell them you want to go inside the house to count out the money/exchange the docs and watch them balk because they don't live anywhere near where you are!

Cheap sh*t - it will be TWOC'd, thrashed around for fun for a day or two, maybe used in other crimes, then burn out or even just abandoned.
 










edna krabappel

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Jul 7, 2003
47,221
As above. High end motors may get sold on (stripped, lobbed into a shipping container and sent off to west Africa for example). Sometimes the perpetrators change the plates & keep them, but it's risky business as a fair few have trackers built in.

Mid range stuff frequently gets used to commit other crimes: burglaries, ram raids and so on. Or cloned. A P reg Vauxhall Corsa will probably have been nicked by some 16 year old for a laugh, and will be thrashed, smashed and dumped within a week.
 


BensGrandad

New member
Jul 13, 2003
72,015
Haywards Heath
I sold my old Skoda when it needed over £1200 spent on it. I assumed that the chap who bought was scrapping it but he told me that within 2 hours it would be in a container at Tilbury waiting to go to India.
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
I sold my old Skoda when it needed over £1200 spent on it. I assumed that the chap who bought was scrapping it but he told me that within 2 hours it would be in a container at Tilbury waiting to go to India.

Where's the profit for them in that ? They bought the car legit, they'd have the cost of shipping and still need work done on the car. Can't imagine they're going to up the price to cover that lot unless you sold it very cheaply.
 




GoldWithFalmer

Seaweed! Seaweed!
Apr 24, 2011
12,687
SouthCoast
Mate of mine must have had his Sierra Sapphire Cosworth 1991 stolen to order (in 1999)-2 thatcham cat 1 alarms 2 thatcham cat immobilisers and trackers fitted all paid up-NEVER RECOVERED!!!???

Lower end some will take and use just as transport and wont even bother burning out..
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
50,162
Goldstone
Where's the profit for them in that ? They bought the car legit, they'd have the cost of shipping and still need work done on the car. Can't imagine they're going to up the price to cover that lot unless you sold it very cheaply.
That's just what they told BG. What actually happened, is they paid by cheque, didn't re-register the car, and used it on job.
 






Cian

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Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
Where's the profit for them in that ? They bought the car legit, they'd have the cost of shipping and still need work done on the car. Can't imagine they're going to up the price to cover that lot unless you sold it very cheaply.

Cars are still luxury items in most of the world and priced as such. Certain classes of vehicle pretty much solely go to third world countries when their useful life is over here - large saloons and estates become taxis, MOT failure commercials, etc. My old VW van was sold on the basis that it was being exported; got a legit export docket for it and all - its now probably being used by a delivery man in Lagos.

MOT standards put physically driving but either unsafe or dirty cars off the roads making them next to worthless here; fuel consumption can make a new van make sense for a 100,000 a year driver but have the van be perfectly fine for a 5,000 a year driver etc. On a lesser scale I noticed that a huge bulk of the buses in Warrington were bought second-hand from Dublin Bus - they're a bit worn (12 years+), not up to the 19 hour days and hilly terrain here anymore but they're OK for doing a few more years in a fairly flat northern dump.
 


happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
7,958
Eastbourne
I saw one of those "following the peelers" programs on the tellybox and they raided a breakers yard (in the east end of london IIRC) where they were breaking cars like BMWs, Audis and Mercs. They were flogging the parts on places like Ebay. When you think that a set of rims with tyres for a Benzo can go for £500, it's a rather lucrative business; a mate of mine had his brand new Audi TT stolen a few years back. The ne'er-do-wells must have watched him put his keys on a cupboard in the porch as they hoofed his front door in, grabbed the keys and were away in seconds. when he got downstairs he was just in time to see it disappearing up the road never to be seen again.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
63,903
Withdean area
Trackers - I know people with high end cars, and others with valuable commercial trucks, who found the system worked well. Recovery of vehicles very quickly, undamaged, and arrests still in the vehicles or nearby.

Aren't the nice cars stolen, never to be seen again, generally those without a tracker? Some people with money, are too tight or too relaxed to bother with paying for tracking?
 






Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
59,477
The Fatherland
As above. High end motors may get sold on (stripped, lobbed into a shipping container and sent off to west Africa for example). Sometimes the perpetrators change the plates & keep them, but it's risky business as a fair few have trackers built in.

Mid range stuff frequently gets used to commit other crimes: burglaries, ram raids and so on. Or cloned. A P reg Vauxhall Corsa will probably have been nicked by some 16 year old for a laugh, and will be thrashed, smashed and dumped within a week.

Doesn't anyone check these west African bound shipping containers?
 


Wrong-Direction

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Mar 10, 2013
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Do they change the plates and use false log book, do they go abroad or to a scrap yard ?

Sisters car got nicked but log book thrown out and all the stuff in the boot was dumped.

Joyride, get caught, slap on wrist and so on..
 






edna krabappel

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Jul 7, 2003
47,221
Doesn't anyone check these west African bound shipping containers?

Presume not. Some of these cargo ships have thousand of the things on. Maybe it's a logistical thing.
 


SIMMO SAYS

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Jul 31, 2012
11,715
Incommunicado
Luckily nobody will ever nick my m reg Toyota Previa. Had it for twenty years-very thirsty but just keeps going.150 thousand miles. Had done 50 thousand when I bought it. Previously a private hire around Heathrow.
 


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