New Signings or New Manager, which comes first?

Brighton Mod · May 15, 2014

A lot of speculation on new players being brought to the club and media linking players to the club. Does this mean that the new manager will have his squad selected for him or will he have an input of whatever magnitude. Our preseason is not far away.

Acker79 · May 16, 2014

I thought I read on here that the club weren't going to sign players until they had a new manager in. Of course, they've already announced they have decided which players to keep or not, there seems to be the suggestion from Bozza that Nzuzi has signed but the club are just holding off announcing him. Seems a bit contradictory, really, which isn't going to stop fans from continuing to question the club's player recruitment policy.

Blue Valkyrie · May 16, 2014

Acker79 said:
I thought I read on here that the club weren't going to sign players until they had a new manager in. Of course, they've already announced they have decided which players to keep or not, there seems to be the suggestion from Bozza that Nzuzi has signed but the club are just holding off announcing him. Seems a bit contradictory, really, which isn't going to stop fans from continuing to question the club's player recruitment policy.

I've no idea, but isn't it just a case of waiting for the transfer window to open before we can complete the signing of Nzuzi

KZNSeagull · May 16, 2014

Should the club miss out on signings just because we have no manager?

Justice · May 16, 2014

Did you not listen to the Bloom interview?

drew · May 16, 2014

Blue Valkyrie said:
I've no idea, but isn't it just a case of waiting for the transfer window to open before we can complete the signing of Nzuzi

Hasn't the window opened already?

upthealbion1970 · May 16, 2014

drew said:
Hasn't the window opened already?

June 1st

KZNSeagull · May 16, 2014

What we have to remember is that the footballing philosophy of the club is set by the club, not the manager and we will only be appointing a manager that fits that philosophy. So if whilst we are managerless, David Burke finds a player available that will fit that philosophy, someone who may well have been on the club's radar for some time, I would imagine they will proceed. TB did say we may wait and we have plenty of time, but I would guess that this means that we will not be waiting weeks for an appointment unlike last summer.

The new manager is going to inherit a squad anyway and we are not in the position to dramatically change personnel on the whim of the manager.

Billy the Fish · May 16, 2014

KZNSeagull said:
What we have to remember is that the footballing philosophy of the club is set by the club, not the manager and we will only be appointing a manager that fits that philosophy. So if whilst we are managerless, David Burke finds a player available that will fit that philosophy, someone who may well have been on the club's radar for some time, I would imagine they will proceed. TB did say we may wait and we have plenty of time, but I would guess that this means that we will not be waiting weeks for an appointment unlike last summer.

The new manager is going to inherit a squad anyway and we are not in the position to dramatically change personnel on the whim of the manager.

The trouble is, I don't think that's the right approach and it's ultimately doomed to failure

father_and_son · May 16, 2014

Brighton Mod said:
A lot of speculation on new players being brought to the club and media linking players to the club. Does this mean that the new manager will have his squad selected for him or will he have an input of whatever magnitude. Our preseason is not far away.

Not sure there has to be an order!

Clubs are changing managers all the time and still having to carry on with the normal business of being a football club. Not sure that we should be any different.

There will be some players that we have spoken to it the past who we are interested in, who are interested in us and for whom plans were already in place. I don't see them being here when he arrives as any different to a new manager inheriting existing players.

There will be others who flash up on the radar suddenly and we need to act quickly on or we'll miss out.

And, after the manager is in, there may still be a window of opportunity for more late activity.

All of these things will and should happen because we MUST be ready for next season and have only lost one [important] person in the whole organisation. Things still need to be done.

Acker79 · May 16, 2014

KZNSeagull said:
TB did say we may wait and we have plenty of time, but I would guess that this means that we will not be waiting weeks for an appointment unlike last summer.

We didn't wait weeks for an appointment. We waited four weeks for an investigation to be completed, then a week for gus and his team to read through the findings before they all met up to reach their decisions. He was fired on a Sunday night and we had Oscar in by the Wednesday.

Silverhatch · May 16, 2014

Deals will be done all over the place before the official window opens on July 1st. That's what Burke and the club will be doing now - preliminary pre-contractual discussions.

KZNSeagull · May 16, 2014

Acker79 said:
We didn't wait weeks for an appointment. We waited four weeks for an investigation to be completed, then a week for gus and his team to read through the findings before they all met up to reach their decisions. He was fired on a Sunday night and we had Oscar in by the Wednesday.

Oh alright then. We had no manager/head coach for weeks as they were suspended.

drew · May 16, 2014

upthealbion1970 said:
June 1st

Or maybe not!

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/fans/faqs/when-does-transfer-window-open-close.html

Ulloa's Soul Patch · May 16, 2014

Manager first hopefully

KZNSeagull · May 16, 2014

Billy the Fish said:
The trouble is, I don't think that's the right approach and it's ultimately doomed to failure

In what way?

Trigger · May 16, 2014

Definitely manager, don't want to leave the signings to those two numpties, Burke & Jones.

Joe Gatting's Dad · May 16, 2014

In any event, it would not be unreasonable for discussions to start with Stephen Ward's agent and Wolves over a possible transfer to see if we are within the same ball park, subject to confirmation by the new manager when the window opens on 1 June.

Washie · May 16, 2014

drew said:
Or maybe not!

http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/fans/faqs/when-does-transfer-window-open-close.html

The season officially ends on may 30th

Brighton Mod · May 16, 2014

I wanted to roll this thread as we have had much speculation on the departure of Oscar and him being here. Many offered him time as it was not his squad and his players that he was working with and others were annoyed that Burke and Barber had such an input into the squad selection. Business being done before the new manager/head coach arrives indicates that the new manager will have to, by definition, work with players selected by others, leading to wiggle room for the new man. But if players are being courted now then the new man will have to be of a certain mentality to take the job on, unless he is just desperate for the job. Many of the names being touted would not accept the players being chosen for them, which would lead to a great thinning of the candidates imo.Can't see us recruiting a big name if this is the case.

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