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    For everyone being asked - & who wants an update on the official Sequential Site Analysis (May 2004) - here it is:

    Sequential Site Analysis - May 2004 .

    Waterhall
    - indisputably in the proposed National Park
    - the site has no rail link and no prospect of one
    - there is no sustainable transport solution to this site.
    A planning application for a stadium on this site will fail because it cannot meet Government Planning Policy Guidelines.

    Toad's Hole Valley
    - there is no rail access to this site
    - Providing necessary additions to public transport infrastructure is not possible
    - there is no sustainable transport solution to this site
    A planning application for a stadium on this site will fail because it cannot meet Government Planning Policy Guidelines.

    Hove Greyhound Stadium
    - site is too small
    - in daily use as a fully operational dog track
    - a stadium development would rely on the use of an adjacent site which has now been fully developed and construction is complete
    There is no prospect of a stadium development on this site

    Shoreham Harbour
    - there is no site available in the harbour area in the short term, apart from land reclaimed from the sea or part of the harbour basin
    - any development on this site relies on the construction of an access road and other infrastructure at an estimated cost of between £30m and £100m
    - The harbour has Trust Port Status and for development to be permitted this status must be changed by the Government
    - the Port Authority has stated it will not enter into an agreement with a developer unless it receives an undertaking that the infrastructure will be provided by the developer.
    The site is not available for development, relies upon a change in statutory status and is commercially totally unviable. There is no prospect of a stadium development on this site.

    Brighton Station
    - planning permission for a mixed used development including a Sainsbury's food store, office, hotel and educational use has been granted and the Section 106 Planning Agreement has been completed
    - construction contracts have been let
    - Agreements to Lease are signed
    - Construction is due to start in June 2004
    There is no prospect of a stadium development. The site is simply not available.

    Sheepcote Valley
    - there is no rail or major road access
    - there is no sustainable transport solution to this site
    - the site has been a major landfill area for 100 years and it is impractical to build major structures on it. There are significant methane emissions. The ground conditions are unstable and there is a risk of contamination of existing watercourses beneath the site
    - an attempt to develop this site in 1989 for a major leisure development including a stadium failed for these reasons
    A planning application for a stadium on this site will fail because it cannot meet Government Planning Policy Guidelines. There is no prospect of development on thjis site.

    Withdean Stadium
    - would have a serious impact on the amenity and quality of life of local residents
    - would displace an important athletics and sports facility in the City affecting three major athletic clubs, a tennis centre, a squash club and health and fitness club facilities and involve the expensive purchase of a long lease on a public house on the land
    - major restrictions to the access and egress to the stadium at any level above 9000 spectators could lead to serious injury or loss of life. There is no reasonable way of overcoming this problem.
    There is no prospect of a stadium development on this site.

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      well done mate!

      can you just send that off to JP and tell him to send in the diggers over at Falmer!!

      on a serious note...with this evidence, this re-opened enquiry should be over in a couple of weeks not months?!?!
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      well that sorts that then
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      i thought they had already put together why other sites were not suitable when we first applied
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      Judge: "Would the defence like to add anything to this?"

      NIMBY'S: "No M'Lud. But there must be a better site than Falmer somewhere?"

      Judge: "Shut up. I apologise Albion, I cannot believe these inbreds have managed to delay things as long as they have. Please go and build your stadium and if you want to increase the capacity in a few years time, come and see me. Case dismissed."
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      Lets email that to John then and we can have the decision tomorrow and start building first thing Monday
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      hear hear!
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      I'm obviously hoping that all these could be rejected and we can get the go-ahead but could someone acquainted with transport issues explain how the Madjeski got the go-ahead. That's not near a railway station, there are no sustainable transport links and, as a Reading fan pointed out, it was built on a landfill site.

      Why do Roz's criteria not apply to Reading but apply to Brighton? Is there something different about Brighton or have the planning criteria changed in the last decade?

      I'm not trying to be negative or suggest Sheepscote, but would like to know the answer to deal with whingeing NIMBYs.
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      Originally posted by Gwylan
      I'm obviously hoping that all these could be rejected and we can get the go-ahead but could someone acquainted with transport issues explain how the Madjeski got the go-ahead. That's not near a railway station, there are no sustainable transport links and, as a Reading fan pointed out, it was built on a landfill site.

      Why do Roz's criteria not apply to Reading but apply to Brighton? Is there something different about Brighton or have the planning criteria changed in the last decade?

      I'm not trying to be negative or suggest Sheepscote, but would like to know the answer to deal with whingeing NIMBYs.
      I think Reading ground was built on an industrial estate. The land fill may have been older. Sheepcote has only been filled in 2 years ago and the gas emissions are too high. Reading's ground is also right next to the M4 which means it has good transport links. But I must admit, you have me worried...
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