pornomagboy
wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
The ref sends the player off and awards a pen then goes to linesman and over rules him self and brings the player back on and gives a drop ball lol
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Blues Rock DJ
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what a precedent that sets......am certain that cannot be done ?
pornomagboy
wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
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The ref went running over and waved the United player back on after speaking to linesman
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Saw that on SSN, looked chaos
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
at least the right decision was made in the end..but did the assistant not wave his flag before the ref gave it?
pornomagboy
wake me up before you gogo who needs potter when
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Didn't see that on ssn but it looked a shambles tbh, surely making a big game changing disision should always check
Fair play to the ref. shame Andre Marriner didn't have the bottle to do that the other week.
Barrel of Fun
Abort, retry, fail
Progress. But questions must be asked as to why he did that. Presumably this game didn't have replays on show.
He gave what he saw, then had the courage to consult another member of his team and change his mind.
Why give it without consulting him in the first place?
Gullflyinghigh
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That causes conflicting feelings for me.
Got to respect that he changed his mind after deciding it was the wrong call but if he saw the incident himself (assuming he did) then asking a second opinion after he's already decided seems a bit flaky.
Plus, now players will know that he can be convinced to reverse a decision, which could make things difficult further down the line.
Pavilionaire
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What is the point of an Assistant Referee if they don't assist when required?
It can. After the ref has made a decision, he has until play restarts to change his mind, if he feels it necessary.
Because he thought it was a penalty. The ref is in charge, if he thinks he sees an offence he has to call it, he can't stop and go check with his assistant every time he is confident he saw an offence, just in case he is wrong. He gave it, came to the realisation that maybe he was wrong (or maybe the assistant called him over), had the humility to trust the assistant's different opinion.
It's unfair to criticise referees who make decisions, then go speak to assistants to make sure, then when finding out they were wrong change their original decision, especially when it's been less than two weeks since everyone was criticising a referee for making a decision on what he saw (as refs are supposed to do) then not using his assistants when doubt on that decision arose.
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Kuipers Supporters Club
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This is bang on - good referees will get 8.5-9/10 decisions right, and even when they are wrong they will know it.
This shows a good referee who realised his error and has corrected it.
As a referee I've done it before - it takes bottle but players respect you as they know you got it right.
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Of course he can.
Blues Rock DJ
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thankyou for enlightening me, as I said, a precedent been made........
keaton
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While I agree with this, if he was certain enough to brandish the red so quickly I wonder what the assistant referee said to change his mind. If he wasn't clear why didn't he give the penalty then discuss with the linesman if he wasn't certain. To me the difference between taking back a penalty and taking back a red card is a bit different.
This. The error was his original "trigger happy" decision. Why make it? Although if he is going to then consequently correct it, it hardly seems to matter.
Aren't refs and co now miked up to each other ? If so couldn't it have been a case that the ref thought he saw a penalty was required and sent off the player but the lino then miked to the ref that he thought he had made the wrong decision and so a discussion took place ?
BensGrandad
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The fact that he changed his mind shows that from his view it was a penalty and a red card but after consulting his assistant who obviously had a better view and said it wasnt a penalty hence recinding the red card and awarding a drop ball. It amazes me that with refs retiring at 47 there are many ex refs of 50 -60 perfectly capable of watching a tv like in rugby and most games in the FL are covered on video so these problems could be avoided.