Eibar - a victim of their own success in Spain?

rrruss

Wandering Seagull

Aug 18, 2003

553

Formentera del Segura, Alicante, Spain

• Apr 1, 2014

• #1

Truly ridiculous. How can a club be punished for the debts of other clubs in its division?
http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/laliga/id/1658?cc=5739

You can sign a petition here and hopefully the Spanish authorities will see sense.
http://www.change.org/es/peticiones...ital-por-culpa-de-clubes-que-se-han-endeudado

 

Biscuit

Native Creative

Jul 8, 2003

22,220

Brighton

• Apr 1, 2014

• #2

So they loaned David Silva when he was 18?

Maybe they could ask him for another loan!

 

albion534

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Mar 4, 2010

5,268

Brighton, United Kingdom

• Apr 1, 2014

• #3

I'm sure Silva and Alonso have some spare change down the sofa?

 

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gordonchas

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Jul 1, 2012

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• Apr 1, 2014

• #4

rrruss said:

Truly ridiculous. How can a club be punished for the debts of other clubs in its division?
http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/laliga/id/1658?cc=5739

You can sign a petition here and hopefully the Spanish authorities will see sense.
http://www.change.org/es/peticiones...ital-por-culpa-de-clubes-que-se-han-endeudado

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To be fair they aren't being punished for the debts of other clubs, the rules were changed to try and prevent clubs over-reaching and going out of business, as has happened to quite a number of clubs in Spain over the past few years.

Last season Guadalajara was demoted from the 2nd Division under the same rule despite not finishing in a relegation position. Ironically the club that was reprieved by that move was Real Murcia, an historically big club but with huge debts itself and now on the verge of financial collapse in any case. It shows the dangers of making arbitrary rules about capital when the structural debt is so large, but a lot of professional clubs in Spain are in that position.

Eibar achieving a promotion to La Liga would be a great story given the size of the town and the club. However there are dangers to the continuation of any club if it is promoted beyond a level it can realistically support - who remembers Gretna FC? Members clubs that are promoted to the 2nd Division know about this rule when they go up. It's a blunt instrument but there for good intentions and it's no good complaining about it after the event.

 

Badger

NOT the Honey Badger

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May 8, 2007

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Toronto

• Apr 1, 2014

• #5

How can you have a law based on the capital of a club rather than its level of debt? That just seems slightly absurd.

 

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gordonchas

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• Apr 1, 2014

• #6

Badger said:

How can you have a law based on the capital of a club rather than its level of debt? That just seems slightly absurd.

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Yes it is absurd, so is the application of FFP, and the ground-grading requirements of Leagues like the Conference, however these are the rules. My point is that Eibar knew this was the case well before they even competed in last season's end-of-season play-offs and gained promotion to the 2nd Division. They knew that to continue even in the 2nd Division they had to substantially increase the club's capital. Whether it's right or wrong or makes any sense whatsoever considering the club's general housekeeping is of no consequence. Mirandes, Lugo and Alcorcon all had to do this last year. They did - Guadalajara did not do it legally and paid the consequences.

 

rrruss

Wandering Seagull

Aug 18, 2003

553

Formentera del Segura, Alicante, Spain

• Apr 1, 2014

• Thread starter
• #7

Thanks for explaining it all a little bit better. Understand the analogy to Gretna. Hadn't really thought about it protecting clubs from over-reaching.

 

HastingsSeagull

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Jan 13, 2010

9,257

BGC Manila

• Apr 1, 2014

• #8

Whilst it would be incredibly sad, those are the rules and they are well intentioned if not sensible for 100% of eventualities.

Fingers crossed they manage to do it somehow and if not promote, at least stay and continue to excel in their current league

 

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gordonchas

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• Apr 1, 2014

• #9

I doubt Eibar expected to be challenging at the top of the league when they started the season. However, the Spanish 2nd Division is ludicrously competitive, even more so than the English Championship, as you should be able to see if this link works

http://www.futbolme.com/coj/index_torneo.asp?id_torneo=2

With 10 games to go, Ponferradina who are currently in a relegation position are only 7 points from making the promotion play-offs.

Another note about Eibar (pronounced eh-bar and not how I heard Sky's so-called experts saying it at the weekend, or maybe "hey you I want to take you a (G)Eibar") is that the whole town's entire population is less than 2nd-placed Deportivo's average match attendance.