Burnley in the Premier

BensGrandad · Mar 10, 2014

With it looking more likely that Burnley will get promoted it would appear that Vokes and Barnes will be surplus to requirements as neither will cut it in the higher division, should we try to get either back. I dont think so but interested in other opinions.

London Irish · Mar 10, 2014

The strength of Burnley lies in Dyche getting greater than the sum of parts out of it, not their average squad, Trippier and a few others aside

midnight_rendezvous · Mar 10, 2014

I like Vokes but think he needs to play with a second striker along side him. He also needs stability and that won't come with constantly being loaned out so if he does get loaned out next season I don't see him replicating the form he's been in this season.

Icy Gull · Mar 10, 2014

London Irish said:
The strength of Burnley lies in Dyche getting greater than the sum of parts out of it, not their average squad, Trippier and a few others aside

Pretty well an injury free team all season too I think? Keeping much the same team together helps massively imo.

joeinbrighton · Mar 10, 2014

In the event of Burnley getting promoted, I would expect Dyche would want to keep as much of that squad together as possible. As much as Danny Ings and Trippier have been exceptional, the unity of that squad is the reason for their success this season.

BensGrandad · Mar 10, 2014

joeinbrighton said:
In the event of Burnley getting promoted, I would expect Dyche would want to keep as much of that squad together as possible. As much as Danny Ings and Trippier have been exceptional, the unity of that squad is the reason for their success this season.

What and be relegation certanties but at least they will havemea load of cash. I dont think that Ings will hit it off in the Premier and would suggest most managers think the same as nobody came in for him during January with any large bids.

HawkTheSeagull · Mar 10, 2014

BensGrandad said:
What and be relegation certanties but at least they will havemea load of cash. I dont think that Ings will hit it off in the Premier and would suggest most managers think the same as nobody came in for him during January with any large bids.

Southampton did but their bid was rejected - they never came back with another bid. Spending lots of money wont get you safety, look at Sunderland, Fulham and QPR last season.

BensGrandad · Mar 10, 2014

They obviously valued him at a lot less than Burnley or a deal for Lambert to leave for big money fell through.

keaton · Mar 10, 2014

Most of our fans are/were adamant neither Vokes or Barnes were good enough for the championship. Dysche disagrees. I would imagine he'd keep the same squad and sign a couple of decent players rather than offloading the players thathave got him there and signing a whole new squad.

It's probably only the Albion who make decisions on who's good enough for the premier league before the get there.

DarrenFreemansPerm · Mar 10, 2014

BensGrandad said:
They obviously valued him at a lot less than Burnley or a deal for Lambert to leave for big money fell through.

Wasn't he supposed to moving to West Ham but that fell through, if it hadn't Ings was was going to Saints.

JCL - the new kid in town · Mar 10, 2014

I don't think Burnley's squad was any better last time they went up and they were mid-table until Coyle left and then they slumped. As others have said i think unity is key

Springal · Mar 10, 2014

There is NO evidence that Barnes and Vokes will be surplus to requirements. Barnes looked good when he came on yesterday, all the traits we have been lacking recently I felt. Involved for both goals, held the ball up well, drew a few fouls to take the pressure off.

Baaaald · Mar 10, 2014

Was only thinking about this earlier. Agree Barnes will not get a game for them in the prem I mean he hasn't played for them in the champoinship so clearly wasn't bought as a starter. Sad that he put money ahead of playing time at his age. Really feel we would have been better off than we are if Barnes has stayed as he is mid table striker at best.

Super Steve Earle · Mar 10, 2014

BensGrandad said:
With it looking more likely that Burnley will get promoted it would appear that Vokes and Barnes will be surplus to requirements as neither will cut it in the higher division, should we try to get either back. I dont think so but interested in other opinions.

No grounds for thinking either will be released. Barnes is good enough and so too will be Vokes.

Vegas Seagull · Mar 10, 2014

Springal said:
There is NO evidence that Barnes and Vokes will be surplus to requirements. Barnes looked good when he came on yesterday, all the traits we have been lacking recently I felt. Involved for both goals, held the ball up well, drew a few fouls to take the pressure off.

Indeed, Reading were in the PL last year, did they look so good that AB wouldn't get a game?
The bottom half is so good as people think, only 1 of 3 promoted has come down in last 5 seasons and not many have spent 10s of millions

The Andy Naylor Fan Club · Mar 10, 2014

BensGrandad said:
With it looking more likely that Burnley will get promoted it would appear that Vokes and Barnes will be surplus to requirements as neither will cut it in the higher division, should we try to get either back. I dont think so but interested in other opinions.

If you think that neither of them will be good enough in the Premiership why would we take either of them when we will also be there? :thumbsup:

dejavuatbtn · Mar 10, 2014

I doubt that the infrastructure at Burnley would support a long term stay in the Premiership, and in the event of them getting there it will be a big pay day that should keep the club in funds for a few years, offering good quality championship football for some years to come.

JCL - the new kid in town · Mar 10, 2014

dejavuatbtn said:
I doubt that the infrastructure at Burnley would support a long term stay in the Premiership, and in the event of them getting there it will be a big pay day that should keep the club in funds for a few years, offering good quality championship football for some years to come.

I don't see why they couldn't stay in the premier league for a fair while, they seem to be run well with sensible finances. Do clubs like Fulham have a better infrastructure? They've had a long stay at the top.

lancyclaret · Mar 11, 2014

Hope the Seagulls can do us a favour tonight with a win or - at worst - a draw.

I think the key will be trying to keep Ravel Morrison quiet - apparently he ran the show at Birmingham. I know you are better than Brum but you still have injury and suspension problems I think.

From what I have seen this season, QPR's old men don't like being forced to play at a fast tempo. Give them time and it plays into their hands. Get the ball forward quickly.

Justice · Mar 11, 2014

BensGrandad said:
With it looking more likely that Burnley will get promoted it would appear that Vokes and Barnes will be surplus to requirements as neither will cut it in the higher division, should we try to get either back. I dont think so but interested in other opinions.

Barnes caused havoc in the Blackburn defence when he came on Sunday, we miss him whatever some people say. No reason why he cant un settle some PL back lines.

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