Roy Keane, says it like it is.

smudge · Feb 25, 2014

Have to agree with the angry one.

"There is a lack of confidence and there are some players who just don't have the quality. We've been brainwashed that the Premier League is the best in the world - nonsense".

I wonder if Mr Scudamore is on the blower to his PR department discussing how they can justify the PL's boast as the best in the world?

TomandJerry · Feb 25, 2014

Championship best league in the world

Leekbrookgull · Feb 25, 2014

To be honest,it would be gone to Name,Name's. We know who they are already.

Paris · Feb 25, 2014

I'd say Liverpool are currently the best team in the Premier League and they can't defend for :shit:

shaolinpunk · Feb 25, 2014

United could really do with a Roy Keane in the team right now

armchairclubber · Feb 25, 2014

A well made point by RK that it may be the best Brand but not the best League. Perhaps reference to the ridiculous amounts of money ring-fenced at that level ?

Hiney · Feb 25, 2014

Just before tonight's game there was a programme on Sky about the Manchester United team of the late 1990s

A midfield of Beckham, Keane, Scholes and Giggs

What they wouldn't give for that right now.

beorhthelm · Feb 25, 2014

confusing a team in 7th (on goal difference) failing to beat a team away in Europe, as commentry on our League? been brainwashed that Manchester United should sweep all before it, methinks.

im not a fan of the hyperbole over the Premiership, but the statement "best league in the world" doesnt even say its the best teams. i wonder if he's cast his eye over the top of the Greek League, 20 pt and 40 (forty) goal lead. Same story for Bayern in Germany, similar runaway in Italy and france. Only Spain an us where theres a contest with a 3/4 way fight. this is one large component they talk about in the quality of the leauge, the state of the competition.

Kumquat · Feb 25, 2014

shaolinpunk said:
United could really do with a Roy Keane in the team right now

Absolutely. Or a Jimmy Case. It's definitely what they are missing. A leader. It's embarassing watching them right now.

Machiavelli · Feb 25, 2014

shaolinpunk said:
United could really do with a Roy Keane in the team right now

And Beckham and Scholes. I would say Giggs, but Moyes might consider this to be the solution.

vegster · Feb 25, 2014

Hiney said:
Just before tonight's game there was a programme on Sky about the Manchester United team of the late 1990s

A midfield of Beckham, Keane, Scholes and Giggs

What they wouldn't give for that right now.

The trio of Rooney, Mata and RvP should be sweeping all before them. Rooney's on the top wad but I'd expect Mata to be earning a fair bit too, I would think that RvP would want a pay rise soon. They could be the most expensive flops in history, must be close to 750 K a week for those 3 :facepalm:

Keeping The Dream Alive. · Feb 25, 2014

beorhthelm said:
confusing a team in 7th (on goal difference) failing to beat a team away in Europe, as commentry on our League? been brainwashed that Manchester United should sweep all before it, methinks.

im not a fan of the hyperbole over the Premiership, but the statement "best league in the world" doesnt even say its the best teams. i wonder if he's cast his eye over the top of the Greek League, 20 pt and 40 (forty) goal lead. Same story for Bayern in Germany, similar runaway in Italy and france. Only Spain an us where theres a contest with a 3/4 way fight. this is one large component they talk about in the quality of the leauge, the state of the competition.

And it's the first time there's been a 3/4 way fight in the Prem since its incarnation. You can't pin one season up as a representation of it's competitiveness.

Hiney · Feb 25, 2014

vegster said:
The trio of Rooney, Mata and RvP should be sweeping all before them. Rooney's on the top wad but I'd expect Mata to be earning a fair bit too, I would think that RvP would want a pay rise soon. They could be the most expensive flops in history, must be close to 750 K a week for those 3

It points more and more towards Moyes and his (in)ability to get the best out of the players. Will he be given the time that Ferguson was at the start of his reign? Difficult to see, with so much at stake in the modern game.

At his peak, Ferguson was able to bring in players like David May, Ronnie Jonsen and Jesper Blomquist (sp) and get the brilliant players he had to get the best out of these mediocre ones. Again, I can't see Moyes having the strength of will to do that.

Black Rod · Feb 25, 2014

beorhthelm said:
im not a fan of the hyperbole over the Premiership, but the statement "best league in the world" doesnt even say its the best teams. i wonder if he's cast his eye over the top of the Greek League, 20 pt and 40 (forty) goal lead. Same story for Bayern in Germany, similar runaway in Italy and france. Only Spain an us where theres a contest with a 3/4 way fight. this is one large component they talk about in the quality of the leauge, the state of the competition.

The EPL and Sky are very good at changing the definition of best to suit their product at the time. Best when English teams dominated in Europe was a comment on the league being the strongest, now they've decided best league in the world is judged by how competitive it is.

brakespear · Feb 25, 2014

The more United fail the better imo.

Prince Monolulu · Feb 25, 2014

Been said a million times, the most EXCITING league but by no means the BEST.

vegster · Feb 25, 2014

Hiney said:
It points more and more towards Moyes and his (in)ability to get the best out of the players. Will he be given the time that Ferguson was at the start of his reign? Difficult to see, with so much at stake in the modern game.

At his peak, Ferguson was able to bring in players like David May, Ronnie Jonsen and Jesper Blomquist (sp) and get the brilliant players he had to get the best out of these mediocre ones. Again, I can't see Moyes having the strength of will to do that.

He's not getting much out of his talented ones either, that 300K a week could soon weigh heavily on Rooney. It's cruel and heartless but, I might just disappear to Red Cafe for a bit, forget Shale Gas as a potential cheap fuel source and check out " Mob,Angry "................. :laugh:

Kumquat · Feb 25, 2014

Prince Monolulu said:
Been said a million times, the most EXCITING league but by no means the BEST.

I think the barcelona man city game made that one clear too.

beorhthelm · Feb 25, 2014

Keeping The Dream Alive. said:
And it's the first time there's been a 3/4 way fight in the Prem since its incarnation. You can't pin one season up as a representation of it's competitiveness.

fair point, but its rarely the case the leader is 20 points clear a little over half way through.

Raleigh Chopper · Feb 25, 2014

Kumquat said:
Absolutely. Or a Jimmy Case. It's definitely what they are missing. A leader. It's embarassing watching them right now.

No its not, its funny.
Couldn't happen to nicer club or fans (except maybe Chelsea)
But it is the strongest example yet of how quickly a good or even great team can fall apart in a short space of time.
This could be the start of a period of decline for Man U, if they do not qualify for CL next year the top players will not come to them and they could miss out on up to £60 million with the added BT money on top of Sky.
Further proof that Ferguson walked because he saw this coming yet the media have never said this. That man really is untouchable.

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