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HawkTheSeagull

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Jan 31, 2012
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Eastbourne
Reports that the inevitable has happened and the Brighton Mainline has started to flood at Patcham and is affecting signalling - will almost certainly cause disruption.

All Coast services have a 50mph speed restriction in place too, due to the weather.
 




Beach Hut

Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
71,953
Living In a Box
Good job WFH today
 


Scoffers

Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
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Burgess Hill
Not seen any official news of that flooding at Patcham, nothing specific on the Southern Rail site that I could see apart from the reduced speed
 


Guinness Boy

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Jul 23, 2003
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Scoffers said:
Not seen any official news of that flooding at Patcham, nothing specific on the Southern Rail site that I could see apart from the reduced speed
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At the moment the site says

At the moment, there is no immediate risk of flooding. We will keep you updated as the situation progresses.
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I'd trust Hawk more though!
 






Papa Lazarou

Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
18,851
Worthing
Just spoke to a colleague who commutes from Hassocks, and he spoke to a train driver this morning who said that all of next week they intend to run a Bus replacement services both ways as that section will be shut due to flooding. So, it sounds like it's anticipated.
 


Beach Hut

Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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Papa Lazarou said:
Just spoke to a colleague who commutes from Hassocks, and he spoke to a train driver this morning who said that all of next week they intend to run a Bus replacement services both ways as that section will be shut due to flooding. So, it sounds like it's anticipated.
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Jesus that will balls up everyone big time
 










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HawkTheSeagull

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Jan 31, 2012
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Eastbourne
Beach Hut said:
Jesus that will balls up everyone big time
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Whats the alternative ?

Only positive thing is that Southern and FCC are prepared. Diverting via Lewes isnt much help either due to the crap signalling between Brighton and Lewes. Getting to the Amex on Monday could be fun, especially as the main P&R is at Patcham of course !!

BrickTamland said:
Whats the likely situation going to be regarding trains between London and Brighton this weekend?
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All depends on the weather - simple as that. Engineering work on Sunday between Brighton and Preston Park though, reduced service diverted via Hove is planned.
 




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Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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Excellllllllllllent. At home today, but got some 16 hour days next week....
 


Papa Lazarou

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Guinness Boy

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Papa Lazarou said:
It really had to happen. the rainfall we've had (as much the frequency as the intensity) has topped the aquifiers up to the very top - it had to starts flowing out in places eventually. This is a vulnerable section.

http://www.theargus.co.uk/news/10984011.Patcham_residents_warned_again_of_flood_risk/

http://www.networkrailmediacentre.c...pdate-Rail-firms-watching-the-water-1fe6.aspx
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So even though the forecast isn't THAT bad for the weekend we are just waiting for the rain that has already arrived to break the surface? It's inevitable (or at least 99% certain)?
 






Papa Lazarou

Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
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Guinness Boy said:
So even though the forecast isn't THAT bad for the weekend we are just waiting for the rain that has already arrived to break the surface? It's inevitable (or at least 99% certain)?
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the latest warning seems to say so:

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/homeandleisure/floods/34681.aspx?area=065FAG017

this graph shows the level getting dangerously close to the 47m above normal level quoted as the point at which the tunnel will flood:

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/static/documents/Research/Ladies_Mile_Patcham_GW.pdf

This article confirms it's close

http://www.railway-technology.com/n...on-groundwater-levels-in-patcham-area-4177727
 




Scoffers

Scoffers

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Jan 13, 2004
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Burgess Hill
Just found this on the Southern trains site:-

"Because of the continued heavy rain being experienced, water levels on parts of our network are much higher than normal and several routes now report flooding. Some Brighton services are being diverted via Lewes, no services are able to run to Southampton and there are other areas being affected by flooding causing speed restrictions to be imposed. Some services will be terminating short of destination and journey times are likely to be extended."
 








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