We are too slow on the counter...

Leo's Goatee · Feb 12, 2014

anyone agree with me here? There was about 6 or 7 times we could of broken away to attack against 2 defenders but we are just not quick enough or nobody is up there to make the runs. Too many Leeds were able to get back in numbers before we had reached the final third. Really think OG has to work on this or bring in a very quick central midfielder to pick those balls up and run!

Medwayseagull · Feb 12, 2014

Leo's Goatee said:
anyone agree with me here? There was about 6 or 7 times we could of broken away to attack against 2 defenders but we are just not quick enough or nobody is up there to make the runs. Too many Leeds were able to get back in numbers before we had reached the final third. Really think OG has to work on this or bring in a very quick central midfielder to pick those balls up and run!

When I saw the thread title I thought we were going to slow the clocks down at the AMEX.

Dunk · Feb 12, 2014

I thought it was going to be a moan about the queues for beer at half time.

Codner pharmaceuticals · Feb 12, 2014

Yup - disgusting to lose a home game against Leeds on a Tuesday night. Tactics all wrong. We can't keep dropping points like this.

Mellotron · Feb 12, 2014

Not sure. When we scored it was a sort of counter Kaz had 3 players to choose from in the box.

kevtherev · Feb 12, 2014

Been the same for last three years. That's not the way we play. We pass it around and try a pick our way through. One sideways pass is all it takes at this level, for the opposition the get organised again and set. By the time Greer has passed it to Upson, then back to TK and then back to Upson again, the opposition have there defencive banks back in place.....Another bug bare of mine is why we never leave a man up when defending a set piece. If we have a man standing on the half way line, the then opposition have to leave a man there as well, or even two. I will never understand why a lot of teams don't do this.

The Legend that IS Lawro · Feb 12, 2014

Mellotron said:
Not sure. When we scored it was a sort of counter Kaz had 3 players to choose from in the box.

Agree, 2nd half was much quicker 'on the counter' and in greater numbers, but few could deny that in recent weeks this has NOT always been the case.

Trelford Mills Guide Dog · Feb 12, 2014

I have to agree, especially on last nights showing.

More so than in any other game this season I felt we played in a very Poyet-esque style, very patiently passing out from the back, in to the midfield and then back again. Very patient, but very predictable.

On several occasions there was a big void between the forwards and the rest of the team (I thought we played very deep) which isn't that conducive to a swift counter attack.

The Wizard · Feb 12, 2014

Counter attacking would mean teams have to attack us... which very rarely happens at the Amex. I can understand what you mean though, but Oscar to me on what I've seen so far seems to like the disciplined organised way of playing, quite often when teams are 'counter attacking' the game becomes very frantic and open, which again doesn't seem how Oscar likes to set his teams up.

I'm happy with how we play I've grown used to the slow passing and grown rather fond of it now I have to say sometimes we move the ball TOO slow though. We do mix things up a lot more now though which I also like, I don't think we are that predictable anymore, we certainly play more direct at times under Oscar anyway which I think is why Ulloa is finding it more difficult up front on his own.

Machiavelli · Feb 12, 2014

Mellotron said:
Not sure. When we scored it was a sort of counter Kaz had 3 players to choose from in the box.

For the last two games there's been a noticeable difference with more players getting in the box more quickly. This is the most impressive thing about Stephens. It's also been assisted by those playing on the wings being both fast and further upfield.

sahel · Feb 12, 2014

The Wizard said:
Counter attacking would mean teams have to attack us... which very rarely happens at the Amex. I can understand what you mean though, but Oscar to me on what I've seen so far seems to like the disciplined organised way of playing, quite often when teams are 'counter attacking' the game becomes very frantic and open, which again doesn't seem how Oscar likes to set his teams up.

I'm happy with how we play I've grown used to the slow passing and grown rather fond of it now I have to say sometimes we move the ball TOO slow though. We do mix things up a lot more now though which I also like, I don't think we are that predictable anymore, we certainly play more direct at times under Oscar anyway which I think is why Ulloa is finding it more difficult up front on his own.

I think we need a midfielder with a bit of pace and quick feet playing just behind Ulloa to solve the problem. Orland is a gifted footballer but does not really fit the bill
Vicente would do nicely

Landgull · Feb 13, 2014

sahel said:
I think we need a midfielder with a bit of pace and quick feet playing just behind Ulloa to solve the problem. Orland is a gifted footballer but does not really fit the bill
Vicente would do nicely

This.

The Stout Yeoman · Feb 13, 2014

I saw the thread title and immediately thought of Argos in East Grinstead ....their loss is County Oak's gain I guess .....

symyjym · Feb 13, 2014

The Wizard said:
Counter attacking would mean teams have to attack us... which very rarely happens at the Amex. I can understand what you mean though, but Oscar to me on what I've seen so far seems to like the disciplined organised way of playing, quite often when teams are 'counter attacking' the game becomes very frantic and open, which again doesn't seem how Oscar likes to set his teams up.

I'm happy with how we play I've grown used to the slow passing and grown rather fond of it now I have to say sometimes we move the ball TOO slow though. We do mix things up a lot more now though which I also like, I don't think we are that predictable anymore, we certainly play more direct at times under Oscar anyway which I think is why Ulloa is finding it more difficult up front on his own.

Rarely happens when we play away either, it has become quite apparent recently that all teams park the bus when they play us.

Phat Baz 68 · Feb 13, 2014

Leo's Goatee said:
anyone agree with me here? There was about 6 or 7 times we could of broken away to attack against 2 defenders but we are just not quick enough or nobody is up there to make the runs. Too many Leeds were able to get back in numbers before we had reached the final third. Really think OG has to work on this or bring in a very quick central midfielder to pick those balls up and run!

Totally agree far to slow coming forward on the counter, very frustrating to watch we just seem to dawdle forwards with no intent.
Should be playing 4-3-3 at home or even just a plain 2 upfront would help !!

brightonmark1234 · Feb 13, 2014

I feel sometimes we need to up the tempo and move the ball quick as I feel we are too slow and we give them enough time to get back

DarrenFreemansPerm · Feb 13, 2014

Phat Baz 68 said:
Totally agree far to slow coming forward on the counter, very frustrating to watch we just seem to dawdle forwards with no intent.
Should be playing 4-3-3 at home or even just a plain 2 upfront would help !!

We did play 4-3-3 against Leeds ?

supaseagull · Feb 13, 2014

Leo's Goatee said:
anyone agree with me here? There was about 6 or 7 times we could of broken away to attack against 2 defenders but we are just not quick enough or nobody is up there to make the runs. Too many Leeds were able to get back in numbers before we had reached the final third. Really think OG has to work on this or bring in a very quick central midfielder to pick those balls up and run!

We won FFS

MattBackHome · Feb 13, 2014

Leo's Goatee said:
anyone agree with me here? There was about 6 or 7 times we could of broken away to attack against 2 defenders but we are just not quick enough or nobody is up there to make the runs. Too many Leeds were able to get back in numbers before we had reached the final third. Really think OG has to work on this or bring in a very quick central midfielder to pick those balls up and run!

Yeah it was bollocks the way we retained control of possession and never looked like conceding.

Shy Talk · Feb 13, 2014

Leo's Goatee said:
anyone agree with me here? There was about 6 or 7 times we could of broken away to attack against 2 defenders but we are just not quick enough or nobody is up there to make the runs. Too many Leeds were able to get back in numbers before we had reached the final third. Really think OG has to work on this or bring in a very quick central midfielder to pick those balls up and run!

We won, though!
P.S. Its not a goatee, its a soul patch.

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