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Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
71,959
Living In a Box
Anybody have a clue what is wrong with the trains to London today - all cancelled from Shoreham-by-Sea at present...........

Still executive decision made and WFH
 






e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,268
Worthing
If you can get along to Brighton they seem to be running ok. 0732 to London Bridge on platform 4 still has seats.
 




Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
There also seems to be a problem at Angmering according to their Twitter feed.

Edit to add, that is the lightening strike mentioned earlier.
 






Papa Lazarou

Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Jul 7, 2003
18,858
Worthing
Angmering. That's where the lightning struck apparently
 






Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
71,959
Living In a Box
If you can get along to Brighton they seem to be running ok. 0732 to London Bridge on platform 4 still has seats.

Thanks but will WFH
 










Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
23,830
GOSBTS
A lot of my fellow commuters seemed to be waiting for direct London trains, and it turns out would have failed, given they kept getting cancelled.

I took a risk, and got on a train that went to Worthing, then straight to Brighton, and then jumped on a lovely Gatwick Express to London Bridge.

Only got in the office 20 minutes late, and quite enjoyed a nice snooze.
 


Carrot Cruncher

NHS Slave
Helpful Moderator
Jul 30, 2003
5,052
Southampton, United Kingdom
I'm heading back to Scumhampton. The 1033's been cancelled, so having to go via Clapham.

As an aside, there's a load of surface water between Patcham and Clayton tunnels on the right hand side as you head north. I'm sure NR must be aware of it, but it didn't look like it would take much rain to flood the track.
 




HawkTheSeagull

New member
Jan 31, 2012
9,122
Eastbourne
Happening more and more . How can that be justified ?

They run fast so they can get into London on time and so they won't start the next service as late.

Screws people over who want to get to London from cancelled stations, but reduces delays for most others.

PS - weather is going to get worse through the day, expect more issues.
 


Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
Anybody have a clue what is wrong with the trains to London today - all cancelled from Shoreham-by-Sea at present...........

Still executive decision made and WFH

Got the usual 6:22 but it was running 11 mins late by the time it got to SBS, I already knew the 7:01 was cancelled. We were slow all the way up, and got terminated at Eat Croydon. Squeezed on another to LB, but he train in front had a "passenger alarm" so, we sat at a red signal for 20 mins. Got to work an hour late, so delay claim went straight in.

This service is really pathetic, running trains through stations they're supposed to stop at, terminating early etc. - so many BAD excuses, the real problems get lost in the noise. I'm so fed up with the service we're getting (or NOT getting) for the money.
 


Carrot Cruncher

NHS Slave
Helpful Moderator
Jul 30, 2003
5,052
Southampton, United Kingdom
They run fast so they can get into London on time and so they won't start the next service as late.

Screws people over who want to get to London from cancelled stations, but reduces delays for most others.

PS - weather is going to get worse through the day, expect more issues.

Or the real reason - that it nicely massages Southern's performance stats...
 






Tricky Dicky

New member
Jul 27, 2004
13,558
Sunny Shoreham
They run fast so they can get into London on time and so they won't start the next service as late.

Screws people over who want to get to London from cancelled stations, but reduces delays for most others.

PS - weather is going to get worse through the day, expect more issues.

From a customer perspective, there just doesn't seem to be any logic or common sense applied. Ignoring any knock on effect through the day, if you take my train this morning, they would rather throw a train packed with people off at East Croydon (quite dangerously on to an already busy platform), and make hundreds of people even more late, and get the return journey on time - which carries about 8 people back down to Brighton. Surely it would be better for more people to get everyone to London, and just make a handful of people a bit more late.

Aside form the above, when the train arrived at Shoreham it was 20 mins late. We caught up a few mins with the join at Hayward Heath being done quickly, so by the time we left HH we were probably 17 mins late - and they could have made up 2 mins to ensure we were less than 15 mins late at EC, so they wouldn't have to terminate us.
 


Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
23,872
Sussex
They run fast so they can get into London on time and so they won't start the next service as late.

Screws people over who want to get to London from cancelled stations, but reduces delays for most others.

PS - weather is going to get worse through the day, expect more issues.


when it blasts through the stations you can see the platforms of your paying customers just standing there in the cold. For these people they will be even more late for work and for what you have said this is so the train back can carry probably 1/7th the amount of people (If that)

Its this lack of customer focus that brings so much grief to Southerns door.

As for the termination when 20 mins late . .. . Why ? Most the people that had to get off probably ultimately got to London an extra 30 + mins later than if the terminated train had just limped in.

Makes no sense
 


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