Hs2-v-Network upgrade.

Leekbrookgull

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• Jan 19, 2014

• #1

Have to say not convinced on the Hs2 case at all would rather see network upgrades across the UK it takes longer to travel from Stoke-on-Trent to Derby than from Victoria to Brighton take a look at the rolling stock ! Maybe the case for The Wealden line should seriously be looked into ?

 

Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003

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Living In a Box

• Jan 19, 2014

• #2

They spent billions already upgrading the West Coast so it would be a pointless exercise chucking even more money into a black hole.

 

Leekbrookgull

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• Jan 19, 2014

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So you would rather see a UK upgrade like me ?

 

beorhthelm

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• Jan 19, 2014

• #4

HS2 is not being funded from a pot marked "the railways". Its a political infrastucture project, if it doesn't go ahead the money will go into some other major infrastructure project or wont be spent at all (booking a nice saving in the budget). It wont find its way rest of the rail network.

 

surrey jim

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Bevendean

• Jan 20, 2014

• #5

Listening to the radio last week they claimed Since 2008 when HS2 was proposed, China has built 6000 miles of high speed line. We are still debating the 100ish miles.

 

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goldstone

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• Jan 20, 2014

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beorhthelm said:

HS2 is not being funded from a pot marked "the railways". Its a political infrastucture project, if it doesn't go ahead the money will go into some other major infrastructure project or wont be spent at all (booking a nice saving in the budget). It wont find its way rest of the rail network.

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The money should be spent on other major RAILWAY infrastructure projects including BML2. HS2 is a vanity project that is totally unnecessary. If they need more rail capacity from up north to London, then rebuild the Grand Central Railway including reopening the Woodhead Tunnel.

 

El Presidente

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• Jan 20, 2014

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I blame this man

 

Norman Potting

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• Jan 20, 2014

• #8

beorhthelm said:

HS2 is not being funded from a pot marked "the railways". Its a political infrastucture project, if it doesn't go ahead the money will go into some other major infrastructure project or wont be spent at all (booking a nice saving in the budget). It wont find its way rest of the rail network.

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Precisely.

With regard to China it would be interesting to work out how much high speed line in proportion to relative size of the UK we should have built. I wonder how their planning laws work in this respect and how much care and attention they pay to the concerns of those affected by the new lines?

 

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Billy the Fish

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• Jan 20, 2014

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Norman Potting said:

I wonder how their planning laws work in this respect and how much care and attention they pay to the concerns of those affected by the new lines?

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I'd hazard a guess that they just build it and if you complain you disappear for re-education.

 

strings

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Feb 19, 2006

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• Jan 20, 2014

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I have to say, I don't think this is just a rail problem. Driving from West-East (or East-West) in the Midlands usually takes far longer than it should. It seems that we are only really geared for travel from North-South and South-North in the country.