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UK national debt still increasing by £2.3 billion a week...



nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
17,571
Gods country fortnightly
That's £380 a second or its like we're funding a Olympic Games on credit every single month, the debt interest alone is costing £2000 / year fro every taxpayer. If we're ever gonna get out of this warren, the only solutions will radical ones IMO. It will be interesting to see what the 2.5% growth does to the deficit.

Anyone got any bright ideas?
 
















Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
Are you aware that 30% of all income tax collected already comes from the top 1% of tax payers?

How much comes from the top 2%? Or top 3%? Or......
 


RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,499
Vacationland
At the end of the Napoleonic Wars, the UK had a national debt in excess of 250% of GDP. Now it's 90%.
This is why the rest of the 19th century was a succession of lost decades for the UK, and the burden of servicing all that debt is why it missed out on all that industrial revolution stuff. All that capital that went into the Consols would otherwise have been used to build canals, railroads, and factories.

But it didn't go there, crippling Britain in the process.

No, wait a minute, it didn't....
 




Diego Napier

Well-known member
Mar 27, 2010
4,416
At the end of the Napoleonic Wars, the UK had a national debt in excess of 250% of GDP. Now it's 90%.
This is why the rest of the 19th century was a succession of lost decades for the UK, and the burden of servicing all that debt is why it missed out on all that industrial revolution stuff. All that capital that went into the Consols would otherwise have been used to build canals, railroads, and factories.

But it didn't go there, crippling Britain in the process.

No, wait a minute, it didn't....

It didn't and of course, there is an identical set of socio/economic factors and global opportunities at play now as there was then.

No, wait a minute, there isn't....
 


dougdeep

New member
May 9, 2004
37,732
SUNNY SEAFORD
How long before someone suggests printing more money?
 


seagullwedgee

Well-known member
Aug 9, 2005
2,983
Note to self: "Don't ever let those useless Labour b4st4rds who got us into this debt shite get back into power, because that would totally fu(k my kids future, and their kids future, and the kids after that..."

Instructions: Light the blue touch paper, and stand well back..........
 




lighthouse

New member
Feb 27, 2008
744
north hampshire
The 1% are earning astronomical wages, so of course they will pay a lot of tax - but when you consider that 10p of every pound earned in the UK is pocketed by them, as opposed to the bottom 50% who share 18p of every pound between them - this is still massively disproportionate, they should be taxed even more.

Envy is such a negative trait.

You could try celebrating the fact that these people pay their taxes in the UK rather than taking their income abroad and paying (probably less) tax there. Imagine what your tax bill would be then........
 










Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,566
Burn the Labour Party so they can never destroy our economy again.
 


Bwian

Kiss my (_!_)
Jul 14, 2003
15,898
Are you aware that 30% of all income tax collected already comes from the top 1% of tax payers?

And how much tax is avoided by the same top 1% and their companies?

If they earn their money/profits from the UK's economy then they should pay taxes here. Time for a UK government, any UK government, to close all of the loopholes-the affected companies won't pull out of this country because they're all making too much money out of us.

They shift their earnings to places where they pay little or no tax. What a phucked up state of affairs that is. Our economy gets Billions diverted to other countries who benefit, meanwhile our infrastructures are crumbling because there's not enough money to fix everything and no bugger wants to pay for it.
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
30,566
Isn't there some mineral-rich Third World country we can colonise?
 




somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
Recover some of the £35bn tax avoidance (which has soared by £3bn under the Tories)
So it was £32bn under Labour.... what action did that lot take to reduce the burden then?
 


somerset

New member
Jul 14, 2003
6,600
Yatton, North Somerset
Time for a UK government, any UK government, to close all of the loopholes-the affected companies won't pull out of this country because they're all making too much money out of us.

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Dream on mate, they will flee in double quick time, leaving a devastating trail of unemployment behind them,....... its the middle ground that needs to be achieved here..... this is where real world thinking has its place, not fantasy, revolutionary extremism.
 


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