Ravel Morrison...

JTR938 · Nov 23, 2013

No not a rumour thread about him joining the albion!

What are your thoughts?
Personally I think he is a real talent, yes he has had his problems off the pitch but my word this guy is talented!
Just watched the west ham v Chelsea game and what a shift he put in. The lad can defend, push forward and has phenomenal vision....
I would love it if Roy took him to Brazil next year, he is just the fresh/exciting player that England need and dare I say could be as big as gazza for England if given the chance?

Dan Gleeballs · Nov 23, 2013

So much ability and right now seems he's cooled his tempremant. Still give me Ross Barkley over Morrison for Brazil any day

JTR938 · Nov 23, 2013

Dan Gleeballs said:
So much ability and right now seems he's cooled his tempremant. Still give me Ross Barkley over Morrison for Brazil any day

Yep good call! Another in form player... Would much rather see these two instead or gerrard and carrick or Milner.

Jim Van Winkle · Nov 24, 2013

Dan Gleeballs said:
So much ability and right now seems he's cooled his tempremant. Still give me Ross Barkley over Morrison for Brazil any day

How about we take Berahino, Barkley and Morrison to Brazil and leave Cleverley in Manchester. These three would generate a lot of buzz and excitement around the squad.

Seagull by the Sea · Nov 24, 2013

JTR938 said:
Yep good call! Another in form player... Would much rather see these two instead or gerrard and carrick or Milner.

Instead of Gerrard??!!! Wtf you on?

willyfantastic · Nov 24, 2013

i'd rather have them instead of cleverly, who offers nothing

gerrard on the other hand....madness

Baldseagull · Nov 24, 2013

Gerard is undoubtedly quality still, but I hate seeing him in an England shirt ever since he dived against Andorra to gain a Penalty, a shameful act of cheating against an International minnow whilst wearing the England shirt. A disgrace.

Zukey Seagull · Nov 24, 2013

Cleverley should be know where near the England team.

Mellotron · Nov 24, 2013

Milner plays an entirely different role to them so can't really compare.

JTR938 · Nov 24, 2013

The point I was making is that it is time to give the youngsters a go!
The time for having the likes of Terry, lampard, Gerrard etc... in the England team are long gone! They have featured heavily for a long time with England being less than successful!? So why not bring on the youngsters...

It is no coincidence that Germany 3 years ago took a very young and mostly unheard of team to the world cup and look at them now... what a force they are now

Don't get me wrong, Gerrard is a great player for Liverpool still but just doesn't cut it when putting the England shirt on!

Imagine taking Wilshire, lalanna, Walcott, Morrison, the Ox, Townsend etc to the world cup?
It's all about building for the future not sticking with a bunch of faithfull labrodores and just waiting for one of them to retire to then replace...

Personally I think Wilshire would do a far better job in Gerrard role...

joeinbrighton · Nov 24, 2013

Early days for Berahino. He has potential to be very good, but at the moment, that's all it is.

Morrison is still sharp around the edges but he clearly has ability and could be a potential match winner as an impact sub next summer. I'd imagine he's on Roy Hodgson's radar but he will want to be careful nurturing him and he also has to weigh up whether his potential ability to win a match outweighs the possible downside he could bring as a traveller if he is not involved in every match. Ross Barkley I'd think is almost a cert to go to the World Cup if he stays fit, but Morrison is more of a wild card pick.

supaseagull · Nov 24, 2013

JTR938 said:
The point I was making is that it is time to give the youngsters a go!
The time for having the likes of Terry, lampard, Gerrard etc... in the England team are long gone! They have featured heavily for a long time with England being less than successful!? So why not bring on the youngsters...

It is no coincidence that Germany 3 years ago took a very young and mostly unheard of team to the world cup and look at them now... what a force they are now

Don't get me wrong, Gerrard is a great player for Liverpool still but just doesn't cut it when putting the England shirt on!

Imagine taking Wilshire, lalanna, Walcott, Morrison, the Ox, Townsend etc to the world cup?
It's all about building for the future not sticking with a bunch of faithfull labrodores and just waiting for one of them to retire to then replace...

Personally I think Wilshire would do a far better job in Gerrard role...

I concur

joeinbrighton · Nov 24, 2013

I'd say it's about striking a balance. Ideally, you should have a mix of young, promising players along with seasoned players who have experienced going to a World Cup before and are motivated to prove a point through previous shortcomings. Gerrard, Lampard and Cole are no longer in a position where they are going to play every match and possibly Lampard and Cole are no more than squad players now (although I'd still rather have Cole playing at LB in a crunch match against Brazil or Germany than Leighton Baines). But the younger players can only benefit from having those type of players in the group to pass on their insight, even if they will not play every game. What you don't want to do is pack the squad with youngsters, crash out in the first round and then saddle the up-and-coming players with that baggage in years to come and possibly do damage to their career from which they never recover.

JTR938 · Nov 24, 2013

At a push I would take lampard, and cole is a must! I would like to see baines playing just in front of him.
If the youngsters miss this World Cup then it will be another 4 years when they will be in their late 20's and fear it will be the same old thing....
Judging by Roy's predicted/most likely squad things aren't looking good are they..? So why not mix it up a bit...?

BEN12360 · Nov 24, 2013

Boring Boring England........................Take whoever you want to a World Cup but its going to take some serious football cleansing to turn Englands fortunes around.

BEN12360 · Nov 24, 2013

JTR938 said:
At a push I would take lampard, and cole is a must! I would like to see baines playing just in front of him.
If the youngsters miss this World Cup then it will be another 4 years when they will be in their late 20's and fear it will be the same old thing....
Judging by Roy's predicted/most likely squad things aren't looking good are they..? So why not mix it up a bit...?

Baines in front of Cole is never going to work!!!!!!!!!!!! They are attacking left backs..........but they are just that....left backs!!!!!!!

JTR938 · Nov 24, 2013

Dare I point out our 2 very own young players that have just been given a run in the team (ince + JFC), come on leaps and bounds and are potential game changers... But last season nobody would even have thought it.

Ince and Hammond is the perfect comparison

joeinbrighton · Nov 24, 2013

BEN12360 said:
Baines in front of Cole is never going to work!!!!!!!!!!!! They are attacking left backs..........but they are just that....left backs!!!!!!!

Baines started out as a midfielder at Wigan and he does provide much of Everton's impetus in building attacks the way that he bombs forward for them, so theoretically he could play in an advanced wide left position, much like Coentrao at Real Madrid and for Portugal can play either role. That said, I'm not sure it's something you can be certain Baines would be comfortable doing and I also think that it works better if the player in the wide left position cuts inside to allow either Baines or Cole to make the overlapping runs that they are both famed for. Arsenal worked this to good effect when they had Robert Pires playing in front of Cole and did exactly that. Of the current England squad players, Adam Lallana could possibly play that role effectively if Hodgson takes him to Brazil.

BEN12360 · Nov 24, 2013

Championship and Brazil World Cup.................

JTR938 · Nov 24, 2013

joeinbrighton said:
Baines started out as a midfielder at Wigan and he does provide much of Everton's impetus in building attacks the way that he bombs forward for them, so theoretically he could play in an advanced wide left position, much like Coentrao at Real Madrid and for Portugal can play either role. That said, I'm not sure it's something you can be certain Baines would be comfortable doing and I also think that it works better if the player in the wide left position cuts inside to allow either Baines or Cole to make the overlapping runs that they are both famed for. Arsenal worked this to good effect when they had Robert Pires playing in front of Cole and did exactly that. Of the current England squad players, Adam Lallana could possibly play that role effectively if Hodgson takes him to Brazil.

Spot on! And well said... Ben12360 clearly has no concept of football and how people play

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