Froch v Groves

Steveapps71 · Nov 19, 2013

Groves is talking the talk but I don't think he is in the same class as Froch but I think it'll take Froch 6-8 rounds to catch him & stop him.
Last Froch fight I watched in the Palmeira, anyone know what pubs in Hove/Brighton are showing it Saturday night, i'm guessing will start 10.30/11pm.
Anyone think Groves can pull off an upset??

albion534 · Nov 19, 2013

Froch is a class above, he has got better with age....i hope he destroys the little shit

Albion Dan · Nov 19, 2013

Id absolutely LOVE IT if St George spanks Froch into next week.

Ernest · Nov 19, 2013

I'm not sure where everybody gets this Froch is a world class fighter from ? He is not world class from beating a past it Kessler who beat Froch when they boxed before and Froch is not even the real champion of the world as that is Andre Ward who boxed Froch's ears off him and made him look like a mug.

I prefer to base my prediction on the Ward fight which showed Froch is far from top class where the unbeaten Boy George has stepped up to the plate every time and still retains his unbeaten record so nobody knows how good he is.

It is interesting that their only common opponent was Glen Johnson and Groves boxed beautifully and thrashed him winning every round whilst Froch struggled to a majority decision win over him.

Steveapps71 · Nov 19, 2013

I suppose it depends on what the definition of world class, this I think is Froch's 11th world title fight so I think he is up there.
Time will tell but I don't see Groves hurting Froch, his only chance I think is to evade being caught badly which I cant see happening.

Ernest said:
I'm not sure where everybody gets this Froch is a world class fighter from ? He is not world class from beating a past it Kessler who beat Froch when they boxed before and Froch is not even the real champion of the world as that is Andre Ward who boxed Froch's ears off him and made him look like a mug.

I prefer to base my prediction on the Ward fight which showed Froch is far from top class where the unbeaten Boy George has stepped up to the plate every time and still retains his unbeaten record so nobody knows how good he is.

It is interesting that their only common opponent was Glen Johnson and Groves boxed beautifully and thrashed him winning every round whilst Froch struggled to a majority decision win over him.

Butch Willykins · Nov 19, 2013

I can't wait.

Groves has nothing to lose being only 25yrs old. Whereas if Froch loses I don't see where he can turn next.

That said I think Froch will win it late on, but I'd love to see an upset.

Steveapps71 · Nov 19, 2013

IF Froch loses the only big fight for him would be a rematch on Box office earning a few more million but his career would be over,
he confirmed if he had lost against Bute a couple of fights ago he would've retired.

Waino696969 said:
I can't wait.

Groves has nothing to lose being only 25yrs old. Whereas if Froch loses I don't see where he can turn next.

That said I think Froch will win it late on, but I'd love to see an upset.

Billy the Fish · Nov 19, 2013

Albion Dan said:
Id absolutely LOVE IT if St George spanks Froch into next week.

Me too.

Groves is a decent boxer and I hope can make the next step up. Froch is hard as nails, but he's been hyped up alot recently. Will be interesting to see how it pans out, I think it'll be closer than people think.

Steveapps71 · Nov 19, 2013

Anyone know what pubs are showing it in Brighton??

The Kid Frankie · Nov 19, 2013

I'm a big fan of both so I'm a little disappointed with the animosity, but that's boxing I suppose...

Going to stick money on Froch to stop Groves in the latter rounds. Will also put something on Groves to win on points as I wouldn't rule that out.

Steveapps71 · Nov 19, 2013

That bet sounds about right!

The Kid Frankie said:
I'm a big fan of both so I'm a little disappointed with the animosity, but that's boxing I

suppose...

Going to stick money on Froch to stop Groves in the latter rounds. Will also put something on Groves to win on points as I wouldn't rule that out.

topbanana36 · Nov 20, 2013

Ernest said:
I'm not sure where everybody gets this Froch is a world class fighter from ? He is not world class from beating a past it Kessler who beat Froch when they boxed before and Froch is not even the real champion of the world as that is Andre Ward who boxed Froch's ears off him and made him look like a mug.

I prefer to base my prediction on the Ward fight which showed Froch is far from top class where the unbeaten Boy George has stepped up to the plate every time and still retains his unbeaten record so nobody knows how good he is.

It is interesting that their only common opponent was Glen Johnson and Groves boxed beautifully and thrashed him winning every round whilst Froch struggled to a majority decision win over him.

What makes someone a world class fighter then?

Steveapps71 · Nov 20, 2013

topbanana36 said:
What makes someone a world class fighter then?

He has been at world level a long time & this is his 11th world title fight I think....so defo world class!
I think Groves deserves his shot but I just cant see him hurting Froch, but cant wait to see it!!

Ernest · Nov 20, 2013

topbanana36 said:
What makes someone a world class fighter then?

A world class fighter of which there are few at the moment is someone like Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather, to me Froch is a good class European fighter who has struggled at the very top class i.e. against Ward and a tip top Kessler. Saturdays fight in the old days would be a European & British title fight and it is a bit cheap classing it as a World title when Froch lost in the Super 6 and against Ward. Too many belts dilute the quality and whilst I'm looking forward to the scrap it is not a true World title fight and Froch is not a true World champ until he beats Andre Ward, if he does that then he deserves to be called World Class.

albionalex · Nov 20, 2013

I think Groves looks more up for this than Froch does. I get the impression that Froch is only boxing for a last few big paydays.

swd40 · Nov 20, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HLVwQgJiRA

Paddy Fitzpatrick, talking a tad of sense.

albion534 · Nov 20, 2013

albionalex said:
I think Groves looks more up for this than Froch does. I get the impression that Froch is only boxing for a last few big paydays.

he is playing it cool, no way he wouldnt be up for this

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Ernest said:
A world class fighter of which there are few at the moment is someone like Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather, to me Froch is a good class European fighter who has struggled at the very top class i.e. against Ward and a tip top Kessler. Saturdays fight in the old days would be a European & British title fight and it is a bit cheap classing it as a World title when Froch lost in the Super 6 and against Ward. Too many belts dilute the quality and whilst I'm looking forward to the scrap it is not a true World title fight and Froch is not a true World champ until he beats Andre Ward, if he does that then he deserves to be called World Class.

This, spot on.

Cloughie · Nov 20, 2013

Can't disagree with Ernest. The Ward vs Froch fight was a farce. Froch couldn't hit Ward with a handful of rice and then he had the gall to come out afterwards and say that Ward didn't want to fight!! That's the problem I have with British fighters - ie they all seem to want to have a tear-up and prove how tough they are (Amir Kahn is case in point as he is an excellent boxer with a apparent glass chin. If he just boxed, he'd be outclassing more opponents).

If Groves can stay behind his jab and avoid long/frequent exchanges with Froch he has a very good chance (Similar to what he done Vs DeGale where he frustrated the win from him). But if he decides to go blow-for-blow then he'll get beaten due to his inferior chin. I for one, have this down as a Froch win on points.

Steveapps71 · Nov 21, 2013

albion534 said:
he is playing it cool, no way he wouldnt be up for this

This! the press conference should be entertaining tomorrow lunchtime!!

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