The recovery appears to be continuing!!

Chicken Run · Oct 16, 2013

Good news although the usual suspects will be along to spread negativity to proceedings...

UK jobless total falls by 18.000 to 2.49m

The number of unemployed in the UK fell by 18,000 to 2.49 million in the June-August period, official figures show.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) also said the number of people claiming Job seeker's Allowance last month fell by 41,700 to 1.35 million.

The unemployment rate drops to 7.7%, down from 7.8% the previous quarter.

The number of people in work, both full-time and part-time, reached a record high of 29.87 million in the quarter, up 155,000.

Oh and employment has reached a record high, some on here were suggesting doom for many years to come...oh and of course we should make more things!!

Bevendean Hillbilly · Oct 16, 2013

Chicken Run said:
Good news although the usual suspects will be along to spread negativity to proceedings...

UK jobless total falls by 18.000 to 2.49m

The number of unemployed in the UK fell by 18,000 to 2.49 million in the June-August period, official figures show.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) also said the number of people claiming Job seeker's Allowance last month fell by 41,700 to 1.35 million.

The unemployment rate drops to 7.7%, down from 7.8% the previous quarter.

The number of people in work, both full-time and part-time, reached a record high of 29.87 million in the quarter, up 155,000.

Oh and employment has reached a record high, some on here were suggesting doom for many years to come...

And all I keep getting as a pop up ad on here is "The End Of Britain" forecasting a massive financial collapse

Tubby Mondays · Oct 16, 2013

For some.

The number of people relying on food banks to survive has tripled over the last year, according to new figures.

The Trussell Trust, which runs 400 food banks across the UK, said it handed out supplies to more than 350,000 people between April and September this year.

A third of those being helped were children, and a third needed food following a delay in the payment of benefits.

The government said the rise was down to the greater number of food banks.

Great answer. There are more food banks because more people need them. More people need them so there are more food banks.

gripper stebson · Oct 16, 2013

Tubby Mondays said:
For some.

The number of people relying on food banks to survive has tripled over the last year, according to new figures.

The Trussell Trust, which runs 400 food banks across the UK, said it handed out supplies to more than 350,000 people between April and September this year.

A third of those being helped were children, and a third needed food following a delay in the payment of benefits.

The government said the rise was down to the greater number of food banks.

Great answer. There are more food banks because more people need them. More people need them so there are more food banks.

This can only go one way. The collapse of a major U.S. food bank leading to food banking worldwide being torn apart...

supaseagull · Oct 16, 2013

Jobless figure decrease in lead up to Christmas shocker!

DIFFBROOK · Oct 16, 2013

No one is in any doubt that there is a recovery, but questions very much remain who is benefitting from this recovery. As pay rises are far below that of Inflation I would hazard a guess not many. Inflation is roughly 3 times that of average pay rises.

I would argue that those benefitting the most from this Govt are those that are earning all ready large wages, with large bonuses etc. Not Mr & Mrs average.

HawkTheSeagull · Oct 16, 2013

supaseagull said:
Jobless figure decrease in lead up to Christmas shocker!

Christmas jobs wont really have any affect on employment between June - August, maybe from now onwards though.

Expect a bigger drop for the next 2 periods, then a slight rise in the period after that.

ozseagull · Oct 16, 2013

This means absolutely nothing. June to August offers a huge amount of seasonal work from tourism to fruit picking.

Always more people in work during the summer. A non story.

Deleted member 22389 · Oct 16, 2013

Chicken Run said:
Good news although the usual suspects will be along to spread negativity to proceedings...

UK jobless total falls by 18.000 to 2.49m

The number of unemployed in the UK fell by 18,000 to 2.49 million in the June-August period, official figures show.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) also said the number of people claiming Job seeker's Allowance last month fell by 41,700 to 1.35 million.

The unemployment rate drops to 7.7%, down from 7.8% the previous quarter.

The number of people in work, both full-time and part-time, reached a record high of 29.87 million in the quarter, up 155,000.

Oh and employment has reached a record high, some on here were suggesting doom for many years to come...oh and of course we should make more things!!

Not putting down your stats, but they mentioned that youth unemployment has remained about the same.

West Hoathly Seagull · Oct 16, 2013

It doesn't seem to be doing the Tories much good, at least not in London. A poll in last night's Evening Standard suggests they are in for a clobbering, unless they replace David Cameron with Boris Johnson. I'm not sure which prospect concerns me more - Ed Miliband as Prime Minister, or Boris - not too keen on either, I must say.

Simster · Oct 16, 2013

Tubby Mondays said:
For some.

The number of people relying on food banks to survive has tripled over the last year, according to new figures.

The Trussell Trust, which runs 400 food banks across the UK, said it handed out supplies to more than 350,000 people between April and September this year.

A third of those being helped were children, and a third needed food following a delay in the payment of benefits.

The government said the rise was down to the greater number of food banks.

Great answer. There are more food banks because more people need them. More people need them so there are more food banks.

I'm not sure you're allowed to post facts like this on a thread by Tory lickspittles like Chicken Run.

Perhaps post it if applicable when Labour return to power and get some good economic news?

GreersElbow · Oct 16, 2013

Although I'm a Tory, I'd hold your horses on saying it's continuing. We should applaud the results, but we should be keeping an eye on the housing market, it's not tin foil wearing hat to believe a bubble will emerge and drag the UK economy down when it bursts if we don't make preemptive measures to deflate said bubble.

bashlsdir said:
Not putting down your stats, but they mentioned that youth unemployment has remained about the same.

Youth unemployment is always going to be difficult, I think the education system has played a fundamental part over the past decade. Labour wanted more people going to university (nothing wrong with this but..) this led to an deficit in skilled trades being developed, university was thrown at the forefront of education, I remember 5 years ago whilst doing my GCSEs the amount of tutor group lessons we had on universities and life after college. Rarely was I made aware about vocational courses at City in skilled trades. The policy of trying to get as many students to university as possible may have backfired and created a deficit in skilled work which is why we rely on foreign workers.

I personally believe schools should introduce 2 separate weeks of work experience. One in a trades environment and another in one which the student wishes to choose; alternatively, schools and colleges should work together and invite students to have a day in their college to see what these colleges offer. I know open evenings are there for that, but you don't get a hands on experience on certain crafts or subjects.

Another to note; is the minimum wage preventing the youth from working? A controversial subject, but benefits is often more appealing to live on that a minimum wage full time job. So the minimum wage needs to either be raised or removed for the u-22s or benefits need great restrictions. I think the no benefits for those under 25 years old may well help retain the minimum wage, and force people into work.

Simster said:
I'm not sure you're allowed to post facts like this on a thread by Tory lickspittles like Chicken Run.

Perhaps post it if applicable when Labour return to power and get some good economic news?

Good economic news? More quantitative easing; higher inflation; more taxes; a bigger government and bigger public sector? I'm interested in how Keynesians really believe they can solve recessions by spending more in down turns, then cutting in the boom.

The main equation for aggregate demand is: AD = C + I + G + (X-M) G being government spending. According to Keynes, when one or more of these decrease, aggregate demand decreases and causes an economic slow down. If during the boom, we cut G, we reduce aggregate demand and alas repeat the cycle.

If we are to borrow more, what if our creditors decide to no longer lend? Or what if we borrow more and see no economic recovery; we'll have more debt and still no growth. These factors play a major role in our gilt yields, and we only have to look at Greece to see what happens when yields spike.

Albumen · Oct 16, 2013

0.2% improvement on last year?

Stoo82 · Oct 16, 2013

ozseagull said:
This means absolutely nothing. June to August offers a huge amount of seasonal work from tourism to fruit picking.

Always more people in work during the summer. A non story.

So we had had on this thread that there will 'always [be] more poeple in work during the summer' and 'Jobless figure decrease in lead up to Christmas shocker', even though this is the figure for the summer.

face it guys, with regards to employment the Government are getting it about right.

El Sid · Oct 16, 2013

Would be interested to know how many of those 18,000 back in work are on minimum wage and zero hours contracts.....

Tubby Mondays · Oct 16, 2013

Simster said:
I'm not sure you're allowed to post facts like this on a thread by Tory lickspittles like Chicken Run.

Perhaps post it if applicable when Labour return to power and get some good economic news?

Sorry. This one will go down better.

ONS figures reveal first fall in public sector pay since records began.

State employees saw their earnings fall by 0.5 per cent over the last year, while private sector workers saw their pay rise by 1.1 per cent in the same period.

Wages are still growing much more slowly than inflation, meaning a real-terms pay cut for the average worker, with particularly steep rises in food prices.

Still thats a recovery apparently.

Tubby Mondays · Oct 16, 2013

West Hoathly Seagull said:
It doesn't seem to be doing the Tories much good, at least not in London. A poll in last night's Evening Standard suggests they are in for a clobbering, unless they replace David Cameron with Boris Johnson. I'm not sure which prospect concerns me more - Ed Miliband as Prime Minister, or Boris - not too keen on either, I must say.

The Evening Standard is the Boris Johnsons fan club publication.

seagullsovergrimsby · Oct 16, 2013

El Sid said:
Would be interested to know how many of those 18,000 back in work are on minimum wage and zero hours contracts.....

17,950 ?

drew · Oct 16, 2013

Chicken Run said:
Good news although the usual suspects will be along to spread negativity to proceedings...

UK jobless total falls by 18.000 to 2.49m

The number of unemployed in the UK fell by 18,000 to 2.49 million in the June-August period, official figures show.

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) also said the number of people claiming Job seeker's Allowance last month fell by 41,700 to 1.35 million.

The unemployment rate drops to 7.7%, down from 7.8% the previous quarter.

The number of people in work, both full-time and part-time, reached a record high of 29.87 million in the quarter, up 155,000.

Oh and employment has reached a record high, some on here were suggesting doom for many years to come...oh and of course we should make more things!!

Stoo82 said:
So we had had on this thread that there will 'always [be] more poeple in work during the summer' and 'Jobless figure decrease in lead up to Christmas shocker', even though this is the figure for the summer.

face it guys, with regards to employment the Government are getting it about right.

Getting it right!!!!

Perhaps you should have included the following quote:-

David Freeman from the ONS gave BBC News a breakdown of the figures. He said the number of part-time workers had reached a new high with, "nearly one in five people working part-time because they can't find a full-time job."

I believe there are 8m in part time work and therefore 1.75m are doing part time work when they really need full time work but of course the jobs aren't there. Add to that the fact that a lot of people in full time work haven't had a pay rise of note for several years and anything they did get was way below inflation.

Uncle C · Oct 16, 2013

Tubby Mondays said:
A third of those being helped were children

In a shock move, children are being asked to hand in their mobile phones in exchange for food.

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