Brighton being dragged into the Tottenham argument.

Stato

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Has anyone seen the reference to Brighton in this Independent article?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/tottenham-fans-why-get-rid-of-yid-8820085.html

I have never heard Brighton fans sing what he attributes to us. Responses I have heard like 'You're too ugly to be gay' have always struck me as rising above the ignorant assumption that calling anyone gay should be taken as an insult. This would seem to come from a very different place than what this bloke is suggesting is sung. Is this just lazy journalism or has anyone heard the song to which he is referring?

 

Ernest

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• Sep 17, 2013

• #2

******s is an American term

 

Green Cross Code Man

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• Sep 17, 2013

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'You're just as town full of ******s' has been sung at us but we've never sung 'we're just a town full of ******s' to the best of my knowledge.

 

Dorset Seagull

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I think he is quoting a hypothetical example to illustrate his point

 

Stato

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Dorset Seagull said:

I think he is quoting a hypothetical example to illustrate his point

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If that was his intent it has been worded or edited badly. Hypothetical intent could have been easily indicated by writing "anymore than would Brighton fans singing...would reclaim" rather than "anymore than Brighton fans singing... reclaims."

 

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• Sep 17, 2013

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Dreadfull, badly written article. The Independant is normally better than that.

 

Dick Head

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• Sep 17, 2013

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He can't spell 'cited' either.

 

Pavilionaire

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Poor article. Apart from making up a quote and then shoehorning into his half-baked analogy he singularly fails to understand the psyche of the football fan.

The fact is "Yiddo" and "Yid Army" are easy words to shout, they've been reclaimed, they're now officially banned by the FA so what's not to like if your a Spurs fan? I personally think it is time to move on because whereas 25-30 years Spurs were identifiably Jewish (Scholar, Sugar, David Pleat) - and the likes of Chelsea the complete opposite (Bobby Isaac slashed hours before his Chelsea debut) - the lines are now blurred.

Abramovich, Avram Grant and Tal Ben Haim at Chelsea, Avram Grant at West Ham, Yossi Benayoun and Eyal Berkovic at West Ham, David Dein and Danny Fiszman at Arsenal. Daniel Levy apart Spurs have been in the minority re the Jewish influence in London football in recent years.

 

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Billy the Fish

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• Sep 18, 2013

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At least he's getting his a*se suitably kicked in the comments

 

catfish

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• Sep 18, 2013

• #10

A very poorly thought out article. The guy's a berk.

 

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Husty

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When have we EVER chanted 'we're just a town full of ******s'?

Shit article.

 

Lord Bracknell

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Curiously, the bit about Brighton fans chanting "We're just a town full of f-aggots" now seems to have been deleted from the article.

 

sydney

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pointless article from another left wing hand -wringer......:yaaaaaaaaawn:

 

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Husty

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Lord Bracknell said:

Curiously, the bit about Brighton fans chanting "We're just a town full of f-aggots" now seems to have been deleted from the article.

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Its still there.

 

Lord Bracknell

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Husty said:

Its still there.

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My mistake.

 

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Husty

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Lord Bracknell said:

My mistake.

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At least it's still there on my PC, although my comment has been deleted.

 

Lord Bracknell

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Husty said:

At least it's still there on my PC, although my comment has been deleted.

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As, indeed, was mine.

 

Goldstone1976

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Husty said:

although my comment has been deleted.

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Lord Bracknell said:

As, indeed, was mine.

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And mine. I wonder what the Indy is up to?

 

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Dorset Seagull said:

I think he is quoting a hypothetical example to illustrate his point

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Indeed he is.

 

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Acker79 said:

Indeed he is.

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Then, as previously pointed out, he should replace "reclaims" with "would reclaim". The current wording is a statement of fact, not the positing of a hypothetical.

I am (perhaps ridiculously) fuming about the slur in the piece. I have been an occasional Indy reader in the past; I doubt I will buy it again.