Agents fees

amexee · Sep 10, 2013

http://www.football-league.co.uk/staticFiles/75/be/0,,10794~179829,00.pdf

Bha spent over 800k and cpfc over 1.3m on agents last season, whilst blackburn spent 3.5 million. Money well spent, or does the transfer system need overhauling?

deletebeepbeepbeep · Sep 10, 2013

Kill all Agents (including Estate Agents) and Lawyers.

Gritt23 · Sep 10, 2013

Agents are a complete waste of money, and represent a lot of what is wrong with the game today.

If we could eradicate them from the game, it would be a far more sensible place.

Footsoldier · Sep 10, 2013

Why do players need agents for? Are players so thick that they can't negorogate themselves. I haven't an agent for when I attend job interviews.

BigGully · Sep 10, 2013

FOOTSOLDIER said:
Why do players need agents for? Are players so thick that they can't negorogate themselves. I haven't an agent for when I attend job interviews.

They offer options to their clients, which can help in strengthening their negotiating hand, seems quite reasonable to me.

Bad agents will always be bad and unnecessary, but good agents have an important role to play.

Clubs do not always play by the queensbury rules you know, they will manipulate and drive deals through without a thought for what might be best for that player.

Giraffe · Sep 10, 2013

7th highest agent cost.

Will be interesting to see what it is like next year after what appears to be a much more prudent approach, and a lower transfer budget.

Box of Frogs · Sep 10, 2013

How did Blackpool manage not not pay a penny to agents?!?!

And how did Blackburn manage to pay £3.5m to agents?!?!

Footsoldier · Sep 10, 2013

BigGully said:
They offer options to their clients, which can help in strengthening their negotiating hand, seems quite reasonable to me.

Bad agents will always be bad and unnecessary, but good agents have an important role to play.

Clubs do not always play by the queensbury rules you know, they will manipulate and drive deals through without a thought for what might be best for that player.

I'm sure that a player with half a brain can work out the best deal. Having an agent suggests the player is the type to wear the skirt in relationships and to scared to man up and decide what he wants.

Giraffe · Sep 10, 2013

Box of Frogs said:
How did Blackpool manage not not pay a penny to agents?!?!

And how did Blackburn manage to pay £3.5m to agents?!?!

Sensible post premiership management and not sensibile post premiership management!

I guess Jordan Rhodes cost them a fair bit in agent fees.

Footsoldier · Sep 10, 2013

Box of Frogs said:
How did Blackpool manage not not pay a penny to agents?!?!

And how did Blackburn manage to pay £3.5m to agents?!?!

Read at the weekend that one football club refuse to deal with any agents. Cant remember the club at the moment but shall come back to me later.

Agents are parasites.

BigGully · Sep 10, 2013

FOOTSOLDIER said:
I'm sure that a player with half a brain can work out the best deal. Having an agent suggests the player is the type to wear the skirt in relationships and to scared to man up and decide what he wants.

Ok, 3 pretty average scenarios.

1) Young kid gets released after his first year pro, what does he do ? If he happens to have an agent, he would try and secure trials and interest from other clubs.

2) A player is signed for £100,000 on meager wages, he scores bucket loads of goals, is a crowd favourite, the managers favourite, the player loves it at the club but the club need/want to cash in, make a quick buck, pay off some debt, sell him for £1 000 000. How much should he ask for, perhaps from his new club and from his current club, what clauses would benefit or hinder him in any new contract, ok the PFA might offer something similar and more palatable, but who knows.

3) English international, Coca Cola, Adidas, Mastercard phones up, how much should you be paid ??

Look they have a role to play and are necessary, they deserve paying for the service they provide, ultimately it all comes from the club, either through factoring in their fee's within their players wages, or directly from the club as agent fee's, its part of football and for the most part quite an essential service for most players.

Ultimately if clubs wanna pay their players in excess of £100 000 per week, then they deserve each other !!!!

father_and_son · Sep 10, 2013

An agent is the "poker face" of a player who can't bluff.

Walking into a negotiation you have 2 figures in mind... I'd like to pay X but would pay up to Y (or will sell for W but would like to get Z).

Agents allow the player to openly say what they would accept with the knowledge that the agent will get as close to the top figure that overlaps with the club's "will pay, won't pay" limits.

They serve a very useful function for people who's skill set involves kicking a pig's bladder and not negotiating multi-million pound deals.

That said... sack them all, the parasitic b*stards.

GingerBeerMan · Sep 10, 2013

Bournemouth spent over 600k in league 1??

drew · Sep 10, 2013

FOOTSOLDIER said:
Why do players need agents for? Are players so thick that they can't negorogate themselves. I haven't an agent for when I attend job interviews.

I take it you earn about £30K a week then!

Footsoldier · Sep 10, 2013

drew said:
I take it you earn about £30K a week then!

I take it you're applying that players who earn 30k aweek need someone to help them out? Players really are thick. Do they get the same agents to pay their bills as well.

Giraffe · Sep 10, 2013

For me the issue is no longer agents, it's players wages. Clubs need to be working on getting those down, the agent fees will then follow.

Herr Tubthumper · Sep 10, 2013

BigGully said:
They offer options to their clients, which can help in strengthening their negotiating hand, seems quite reasonable to me.

Bad agents will always be bad and unnecessary, but good agents have an important role to play.

Clubs do not always play by the queensbury rules you know, they will manipulate and drive deals through without a thought for what might be best for that player.

This still does not address Footsoldier's comment which is why cant players do this themselves?

seagullwedgee · Sep 10, 2013

Agents are a cancer draining cash and lifeblood from the business of football. I think all Agents should be employed and paid for by he PFA, and their costs should be met from player contributions/subscriptions. Players do not need an agent for more than 6 or 7 days a year, so there is massive over-supply in this so-called industry.

I say clubs should never have to pay a single penny to Agents, their fees should be exclusively met by the people they represent, ie the players, who are after all the most wealthy in the whole football equation, by a country mile.

Just say "NO", together and unequivocally, and we can rid this cancer from our game.

The Modfather · Sep 10, 2013

A few players use the Players Union to negotiate contracts rather than use agents. It would be good for the game if more players followed suit.

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