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    Not going to go down well with B&H council is it. Shame it doesn't mention unnecessary cycle lanes. The Edward Street plans are the craziest yet.

    http://http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-23837610
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      one of the hilliest towns in Britain as well. you couldnt make it up. as much as they wish brighton was copenhagen its never going to be.
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      Seems like more hot air from Pickles the king of flatulence. Much as I detest speed bumps and excessive parking charges, what we have here is a new set of guidelines, which amounts to sod all really.
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      Quote Originally Posted by CheeseRolls View Post
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      Seems like more hot air from Pickles the king of flatulence. Much as I detest speed bumps and excessive parking charges, what we have here is a new set of guidelines, which amounts to sod all really.
      Probably easier for Pickles that doing anything about excessive rants, proper planning regulation or the stranglehold of the supermarkets over the High Street.
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      It is noteworthy that the cheapest place to park in Brighton & Hove is opposite the Council offices at Hove Town Hall. About £4 a day where as it is about that an hour for the rest of Brighton. To borrow and adapt a line from Animal Farm, "All cars are equal, but some cars are more equal than others".
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      "Draconian" parking policies and "over-zealous traffic wardens" had driven motorists into internet retailers and out-of-town stores, Eric Pickles said.

      Clearly b**locks. I'm sure the parking doesn't help but I think convenience, choice & price are the things people are most looking at when using the internet and out of town shopping centres. The high street needs to adapt its offering to survive as out of town and internet retailing are better options for the majority of people. This particular horse bolted a long time ago, which goes to show just how out of touch Mr. Pickles is.

      How is Mr Pickles suggesting local Government makes up the shortfall in cash whilst their budgets are being slashed as well?
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      What puts me off town centre shopping? Traffic congestion, that's what.
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      Convenience....that is why people use their cars in towns.

      Take brighton...there is no point in going into central brighton to do your grocery shopping....apart from waitrose and that is far enough away from the centre....so your shopping is therefore for clothes, shoes, that sort of thing. From mile oak, it takes a good hour to get into town on the bus and is not the most pleasant of experiences, therefore people drive. You have your own space and can load your car without hassling other passengers!

      As much as people advocate getting people out of their cars and into busses, our mindset is to use the car and unfortunately that will stay. I can only see that changing if we have a public transport system that is free or at least dirt cheap, but as all the money was spent propping up and bailing out the idiocies of the financial system and their willingness to lend money to people who had no way to pay it back, that option is no longer the, therefore public transport will always be an expensive and inconvenient option.

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      Convenience....that is why people use their cars in towns.

      Take brighton...there is no point in going into central brighton to do your grocery shopping....apart from waitrose and that is far enough away from the centre....so your shopping is therefore for clothes, shoes, that sort of thing. From mile oak, it takes a good hour to get into town on the bus and is not the most pleasant of experiences, therefore people drive. You have your own space and can load your car without hassling other passengers!

      As much as people advocate getting people out of their cars and into busses, our mindset is to use the car and unfortunately that will stay. I can only see that changing if we have a public transport system that is free or at least dirt cheap, but as all the money was spent propping up and bailing out the idiocies of the financial system and their willingness to lend money to people who had no way to pay it back, that option is no longer the, therefore public transport will always be an expensive and inconvenient option.

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      But ... unlike other UK towns and cities (other than London), bus use in Brighton has doubled in recent years. They must be doing something right.

      http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/cont...ronage-doubles
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      But ... unlike other UK towns and cities (other than London), bus use in Brighton has doubled in recent years. They must be doing something right.

      http://www.brighton-hove.gov.uk/cont...ronage-doubles
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