Christine Ohuruogu - what a legend

Simster · Aug 13, 2013

Haven't seen a thread on this, so...

I know everyone rightly bangs on about the master that is Mo Farah, but what a run that was last night and an absolute object lesson to kids on never giving up or being arrogant and not bothering to dip at the line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23675550

New national record and retention of her world title. :bowdown:

Geriatric Seagull · Aug 13, 2013

I assume we are talking about the same woman who conveniently missed three drugs tests?

spring hall convert · Aug 13, 2013

Simster said:
Haven't seen a thread on this, so...

I know everyone rightly bangs on about the master that is Mo Farah, but what a run that was last night and an absolute object lesson to kids on never giving up or being arrogant and not bothering to dip at the line.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23675550

New national record and retention of her world title.

Not for me I'm afraid. Completely tarnished by the drugs ban, I don't see how it was possibe to miss 3 tests unless she had something to hide. It makes me a little sick that Dwain Chambers cops all the grief, whilst she gets to be team captain.

Same theory goes for Rio Ferdinand for me, definately had something to hide.

Barrel of Fun · Aug 13, 2013

Geriatric Seagull said:
I assume we are talking about the same woman who conveniently missed three drugs tests?

Inconveniently would be a more suitable word.

Her third strike (last minute change of training venue) saw her banned, although she passed a test 9 days before and three days after the missed one. There was no suspicion of doping, more bad luck/planning. As well numerous other tests passed in the nine month period of the missed tests.

People writing about the three missed tests always fail to mention the circumstances and paint her as a cheat.

de la zouch · Aug 13, 2013

Barrel of Fun said:
Inconveniently would be a more suitable word.

Her third strike (last minute change of training venue) saw her banned, although she passed a test 9 days before and three days after the missed one. There was no suspicion of doping, more bad luck.

People writing about the three missed tests always fail to mention the circumstances and paint her as a cheat.

If it was an American sprinter would you be so forgiving?

spring hall convert · Aug 13, 2013

Barrel of Fun said:
Inconveniently would be a more suitable word.

Her third strike (last minute change of training venue) saw her banned, although she passed a test 9 days before and three days after the missed one. There was no suspicion of doping, more bad luck/planning. As well numerous other tests passed in the nine month period of the missed tests.

People writing about the three missed tests always fail to mention the circumstances and paint her as a cheat.

3 instances of bad luck? Really?

Barrel of Fun · Aug 13, 2013

de la zouch said:
If it was an American sprinter would you be so forgiving?

Yes, providing they hadn't failed any tests and under the same circumstances.

Beach Hut · Aug 13, 2013

spring hall convert said:
3 instances of bad luck? Really?

Indeed, very strange

16 bit 44.1 · Aug 13, 2013

de la zouch said:
If it was an American sprinter would you be so forgiving?

Anybody with a brain would! What part of "she passed a test 9 days before and three days after the missed one" is hard to comprehend or based on nationality?

What a stupid comment!

Gritt23 · Aug 13, 2013

spring hall convert said:
I don't see how it was possibe to miss 3 tests unless she had something to hide.

This is very different to Rio dashing off from training having been told the testers wanted to see him.

Look into the circumstances of what athletes are expected to do, and especially the circumstances of the 3rd miss, and you may view it very differently.

Stat Brother · Aug 13, 2013

16 bit 44.1 said:
Anybody with a brain would! What part of "she passed a test 9 days before and three days after the missed one" is hard to comprehend or based on nationality?

What a stupid comment!

I'm afraid that counts for very little in the 21st century world of masking agents, diaretics, saline solutions, etc.

You can be clean an hour later, that's the whole point of 'doorstep' testing.

Sergei's Celebration · Aug 13, 2013

spring hall convert said:
3 instances of bad luck? Really?

Didn't a high profile football player also have this problem? Always tested negative, tested negative within 2 days of the test, had the most high profile people in the game testify on his behalf and still get banned.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/3333091.stm

16 bit 44.1 · Aug 13, 2013

Stat Brother said:
I'm afraid that counts for very little in the 21st century world of masking agents, diaretics, saline solutions, etc.

You can be clean an hour later, that's the whole point of 'doorstep' testing.

One hour! If that was true then nobody should fail.

keaton · Aug 13, 2013

Gritt23 said:
This is very different to Rio dashing off from training having been told the testers wanted to see him.

Look into the circumstances of what athletes are expected to do, and especially the circumstances of the 3rd miss, and you may view it very differently.

She didn't turn up to one.
And she twice moved training sessions at short notice and forgot to tell the testers. With that sort of intelligence i'm surprised she manages to walk, let alone run.

Tricky Dicky · Aug 13, 2013

16 bit 44.1 said:
Anybody with a brain would! What part of "she passed a test 9 days before and three days after the missed one" is hard to comprehend or based on nationality?

What a stupid comment!

Not a stupid comment at all. My first thought when I hear her name is always "drug cheat" even though I doubt she took anything, but she broke the rules, and there is no excuse at that level to do so. If they break the rules, they habe to be treated as if they are guilty - it can't work any other way. The same for Rio.

Uncle Spielberg · Aug 13, 2013

Well I cheered her on last night. Well done Christine !

Stat Brother · Aug 13, 2013

16 bit 44.1 said:
One hour! If that was true then nobody should fail.

There's no excuse for failing an in competition test.

The best users and scientists can get the stuff out just as quickly as it's put in.

This isn't an option for everybody, money dictates, as I said hence the need for doorstep testing.

Lokki 7 · Aug 13, 2013

She doesn't represent me. I'm sure she'll live though.

Tricky Dicky · Aug 13, 2013

Lokki 7 said:
She doesn't represent me. I'm sure she'll live though.

Kinda agree, but also I do think people deserve a second chance - but as I say, when I hear her name, my first thought is not "great athlete", it s certainly "drug cheat"

dougdeep · Aug 13, 2013

Innocent until proved guilty. Well done Christine.

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