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Bladders
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No...
Bladders
Twats everywhere
How would your 4 man midfield line up then out of interest?
SeagullSongs
And it's all gone quiet..
dougdeep
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Of course not...
Spun Cuppa
Thanks Greens :(
Stick with the fluid 4-3-3, with David on instead of Barnes. We will have to be on guard against swift counters, until everyone is comfortable with their roles and responsibilities. Should make for exciting viewing 
midnight_rendezvous
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Kush
Greer Upson
Bruno Calde/ Chicksen
Bridcutt Agustein
Buckley Orlandi/ Lua Lua
Barnes
Ulloa
Greer Upson
Bruno Calde/ Chicksen
Bridcutt Agustein
Buckley Orlandi/ Lua Lua
Barnes
Ulloa
Marshy
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Barnes will struggle to get in the side on any sort of regular basis when our shopping is done, I do see Orlandi playing that left side role.
However as you say, getting people nearer Ulloa is key to our success this season , way too isolated much like CMS was.
supaseagull
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I think tactically and after watching the Crawley and the Villareal game, people are going to be surprised with the interchanging of positions.
The "False 9" formation was definitely on show during the last two games.
When we had the ball going forward, it was interesting to see Orlandi, Crofts, Ulloa, Buckley & Barnes all interchanging positions so at one point, Orlandi and Crofts were the furthest central players pushed forward and Barnes & Ulloa dropping deeper to collect the ball.
If worked effectively, you create confusion in the defense (as it did in the first half against a good team Saturday). However, it can be a risky strategy to play if the players you have, don't have the intelligence to continually switch and cover.
Gus built a squad intelligent enough to cope with this system so that this evolution under Oscar has the personnel who are able to adapt to it.
If it pays off, we will see brilliant attacking football and lots of goals!
Happy days!
The "False 9" formation was definitely on show during the last two games.
When we had the ball going forward, it was interesting to see Orlandi, Crofts, Ulloa, Buckley & Barnes all interchanging positions so at one point, Orlandi and Crofts were the furthest central players pushed forward and Barnes & Ulloa dropping deeper to collect the ball.
If worked effectively, you create confusion in the defense (as it did in the first half against a good team Saturday). However, it can be a risky strategy to play if the players you have, don't have the intelligence to continually switch and cover.
Gus built a squad intelligent enough to cope with this system so that this evolution under Oscar has the personnel who are able to adapt to it.
If it pays off, we will see brilliant attacking football and lots of goals!
Happy days!
Bladders
Twats everywhere
Some good footballers but no pace there, (though I don't know about Kemy's pace)
Isn't Agustien more a holding player any way? With a four man mid like that I'd play more of a Diamond so would have to have Bridders or Kemmy, with say Buckley on the right, Orlandi left and Dave spear heading the midfield.
Bladders
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This for me as well, was interesting to see the inter changing of positions in the first half against Villareal, infact the more I look at the signing of Kemy and Dave the more it leans towards the 4-3-3 imo.
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Buckley Bridcutt Agustien/Orlandi Lopez/Orlandi
Barnes Ulloa
Probably. I dunno, just thinking out loud really.
Spun Cuppa
Thanks Greens :(
Kuszczak - Calde/Upson/Greer/Bruno - David/Bridcutt/Orlandi - Buckley/Ulloa/Barker
Played in a Cruyffesque Ajax/Barca stylee
Played in a Cruyffesque Ajax/Barca stylee
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My concern with that is whether the players are up with it. No one seemed to know who was helping Calde when their right back doubled up on him in attack. I saw Crofts, Barnes and Orlandi all take a turn at helping out.
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Bit early to assume that about Barnes. Why'd you say that? He's been pretty prominent in the friendlies, and it looked like our first 11 on Sat, and he was rightfully in there, played well.
supaseagull
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You could be right...Although you could also go with the following
4 defenders
1 Holding MF (Bridders)
1 Box to Box MF (Agustein, Crofts)
1 Free role (Dave, Orlandi, JFC)
1 floating winger
2 Attackers( one of which covers the other wing when the floating winger changes sides)
supaseagull
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Oh and one other thing...Expect high pressure/tempo from all midfielders/attackers in the final and middle third when we don't have the ball...which incidentally, will suit CMS' role in the team.
Bladders
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Thats a good point that I also pointed out in another thread, one concern for me the other night against Villareal was how exposed the our left side looked when they attacked, under gus the wingers slotted in to help the full backs plus the back 4 went narrow. Looked a little more exposed the other night though.
Hoping it's just a mix of a very good team playing against us, the fact that we looked to get forward more so will take risks from time to time and the fact that the players are still getting to grips with this new style under Oscar.
Hoping to have that question answered more at tomorrow nights match.
Bladders
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Well Barnes did look a little more central the other night so yes. Also in a proper 4-3-3 the opposite winger to where the ball is should be drifting into the box more centrally to make two upfront, with added support from the attacking midfielder in the team.