The Official 100th Tour de France thread, 2013.

Stat Brother · Jun 27, 2013

Summer is here, (honest) so it can only mean one thing, starting Saturday:-

LE TOUR.

Highlights for the casual watcher this year inc:-

Sat 29.06 - No reason (Jonah Stat doesn't want to put the mockers on it)
Sat 06.07 - First mountain slugfest.
Sun 07.06 - Second mountain slugfest.
Wed 10.07 - Picturesque and potentially pivotal TT for Chris Froome.
Sun 14.07 - Mount Ventoux - hell on wheels.
Thurs 18.07 - Alpe d'Huez - Dutch corner twice, what's not to love.
Sun 21.07 - Champs-Elysees - No reason (Jonah Stat doesn't want to put the mockers on it)

manintheblackpajamas · Jun 27, 2013

No mention for stage 20...

Disgraceful!

Stat Brother · Jun 27, 2013

manintheblackpajamas said:
No mention for stage 20...

Disgraceful!

It'll all be over by then, it'll just be scrapping for top 10 glory.
Yellow won't change hands.

(everybody rushes to the bookies to get their stage 20 bets on early)

Trufflehound · Jun 27, 2013

Question for the experts. Besides Contador, is there anyone else this year Froome realistically needs to be concerned about? I know Schleck isn't 100% race fit, so he won't be challenging.

Bold Seagull · Jun 27, 2013

Stage 11 TT Avranches Weds 10th July....

Portsmouth to Caen
dept Tuesday 09th 22:45 arr Weds 10th 06:45

Cycle 100km Caen to Avranches (62 miles, @ average 17mph say 4 hour ride) arrive Avranches 11.00

Cycle 100km back to Caen

Caen to Portsmouth
dept Weds 10th 22:45 arr Thurs 11th 06.45

Basic price for 1 adult + 1 bike (reserved lounge chair for both journeys) = £90

For 4 adults + 4 bikes + 4 birth cabin there and back = £120 each.

I'm just throwing this out there, but that is basically 1 day off work, 2 nights stay on a boat, take in stage 11 of the Tour, 120miles of cycling in France.....

Stat Brother · Jun 27, 2013

Trufflehound said:
Question for the experts. Besides Contador, is there anyone else this year Froome realistically needs to be concerned about? I know Schleck isn't 100% race fit, so he won't be challenging.

There is a reason why Froomey is the 4/6 favourite.
Clean Contador doesn't look much like the Contador of old.

'Normally' you'd say anything can happen, crash, injury etc, but Sky have learned their lessons well and although a possibility Froome being hampered things like that seem unlikely.

NSC's finest Ryder Hesjedal & Garmin won last years Giro because he wasn't taken seriously by the 'favourites'.
Movistar might fit into that category but there doesn't seem to be many teams who can challenge Sky.

Rider for rider Froomey is currently the best, but to get to him you've first got to do over 8 other Sky riders, no other team looks like they are up to that task. It's no surprise CF's right hand man is joint 4th favourite.

Sky's job will be even easier with Cav on another team. Cav team will become responsible for the peloton on all flat stages.

manintheblackpajamas · Jun 27, 2013

Stat Brother said:
It'll all be over by then, it'll just be scrapping for top 10 glory.
Yellow won't change hands.

I think you're right, but I for one will be watching with interest to see the stage done properly.

Have the day booked off work for Alpe d'Huez and Ventoux is on a Sunday...
Can't wait.

Sussax · Jun 27, 2013

3 bets placed for Niemiec, De Gendt and Gesink for top 10 finishers.

Foolg · Jun 27, 2013

Tips?
Can't see value in Froome at odds on, and don't really follow cycling bar the tour to know enough about the lesser fancied riders. Who's worth some each way money? Fancy a flutter seeing as StanJames have paid out on my Oscar bet.

Bold Seagull · Jun 27, 2013

Foolg said:
Tips?
Can't see value in Froome at odds on, and don't really follow cycling bar the tour to know enough about the lesser fancied riders. Who's worth some each way money? Fancy a flutter seeing as StanJames have paid out on my Oscar bet.

Quintana has been in great form for an outside bet. Valverde perhaps, and you can get some great odds on Daniel Martin who has looked good this season as well.

Indurain's Lungs · Jun 27, 2013

Bold Seagull said:
Stage 11 TT Avranches Weds 10th July....

Portsmouth to Caen
dept Tuesday 09th 22:45 arr Weds 10th 06:45

Cycle 100km Caen to Avranches (62 miles, @ average 17mph say 4 hour ride) arrive Avranches 11.00

Cycle 100km back to Caen

Caen to Portsmouth
dept Weds 10th 22:45 arr Thurs 11th 06.45

Basic price for 1 adult + 1 bike (reserved lounge chair for both journeys) = £90

For 4 adults + 4 bikes + 4 birth cabin there and back = £120 each.

I'm just throwing this out there, but that is basically 1 day off work, 2 nights stay on a boat, take in stage 11 of the Tour, 120miles of cycling in France.....

I'll be there for that one, probably somewhere on one of the lumps in the first half.

Stat Brother · Jun 27, 2013

I've just listened to the BBC Tour warm up podcast, it's very good and well worth a listen.

Foolg said:
Tips?
Can't see value in Froome at odds on, and don't really follow cycling bar the tour to know enough about the lesser fancied riders. Who's worth some each way money? Fancy a flutter seeing as StanJames have paid out on my Oscar bet.

Boringly the 'safest' bet must be a Froome Contador Rodriguez forecast.

Sadly the bookies have finally got wise to my Sky's 'other' rider ew punt.
If you can get the odds Porte has to be in with a podium shout.

Bold's Dan Martin tip is a fair call, even though he's played himself down on the podcast.

Jay's nod to Gesink is laughable (bet house on Gesink, bet house on Gesink).

My big outsider fella is Rein Taaramae.
Currently 250/1 with Stan James which in fairness does reflect his chances to podium, but he should comfortably be in the top 10.
Thereby making it a better value bet than say the 40/1 on offer for Andy Schleck, who won't even finish.

cough: 33/1 Cadel Evans :cough

rcf0712 · Jun 28, 2013

Here we go again, love this tread, I'm still hopelessly optimistic for Cadel and Tyler in BMC and what about the crazy Czech guy Sagan? However, I realise it's all a bit Billy Mumfry as the Sky Monster seems unstoppable this year. The only way I can see Sky not cleaning up is someone using a new undetectable doping agent and I don't think anyone wants to see that....

We've got the awesome French TDF doco' "Tour de France: The Legend of The Race" on SBS tonight as a warm up but alas I'm out on the piss for 30 June drinkies - IQ will sort me out....

Horton's halftime iceberg · Jun 28, 2013

Come on the Froome Dog. Lets hope he has been practicing Ventoux and the Alpe.

8 days before I venture out. But until them Stats favourite comedy duo to entertain is, Phil and Paul, bring them on to tonight for the team presentations.

Motogull · Jun 28, 2013

I shall be watching a lot of this. That stage 15 looks amazing.

Stat Brother · Jun 28, 2013

Motogull said:
I shall be watching a lot of this. That stage 15 looks amazing.

I'm not to sure which to recommend for TdF relative newbies.

Either:-
a) Watch old Mount Ventoux youtube footage so you know what to expect and appreciate it more.
or
ii) Steer clear of all Mount Ventoux footage so you can get that first 'hit' of the spectacular.

1066familyman · Jun 28, 2013

Have to say I'm glad Wiggins isn't riding. This way we won't have the media circus around the Wiggins v Froome nonsense and we can concentrate on enjoying the racing instead. Also think Froome deserves not to have that kind of pressure put on him.

I've had a sneaky bet on the youngest rider ever to start a Tour since world war 2 to be in yellow after tomorrow. Bound to be some pile ups and if it takes out all the lead sprinters then a second tier could easily come through and take the glory. I'd rather lose my money though and see everyone stay upright and watch a fair fight between all the big guns.

Indurain's Lungs · Jun 28, 2013

1066familyman said:
Have to say I'm glad Wiggins isn't riding. This way we won't have the media circus around the Wiggins v Froome nonsense and we can concentrate on enjoying the racing instead. Also think Froome deserves not to have that kind of pressure put on him.

This

Stat Brother · Jun 28, 2013

Cav's going to be like a coiled spring, tomorrow.

I'd like to know what the betting range is for 'amount of people Bouhanni causes to crash out'.

I'm going for 4.
and if one is Cav I'll personally stomp all over the bits of Boohoo Cav doesn't beat to a pulp.

1066familyman · Jun 28, 2013

Stat Brother said:
Cav's going to be like a coiled spring, tomorrow.

I'd like to know what the betting range is for 'amount of people Bouhanni causes to crash out'.

I'm going for 4.
and if one is Cav I'll personally stomp all over the bits of Boohoo Cav doesn't beat to a pulp.

You've got Bouhanni all wrong I reckon. Yes, he's not perfect, but he's young and is still learning. He's certainly no Abdoujaparov that's for sure. Now leave the young lad alone and pick on someone your own age punish:

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