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Safe Standing - Again!



Postman Pat

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Jul 24, 2007
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Coldean
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-to-push-for-safestanding-trials-8626274.html

The Football League is facing mounting pressure to back trials for safe standing after an overwhelming majority of Championship clubs went against the League's stance and voted in favour of permitting trials at a meeting earlier this season.

Standing is banned in the top two divisions in England but a significant number of clubs in the Championship and a growing number in the Premier League support allowing a return to limited terracing if trials are successful. The Premier League and the Football League remain steadfastly opposed but the Football League's position is being potentially undermined by its own members.

A motion supporting safe-standing trials could be included on the agenda at next month's meeting of all 72 Football League club chairmen and, if it is, its supporters are increasingly confident it will be passed. In that case, member clubs would expect the League to lobby for the necessary change in the law. The Government has an "open mind" over the issue but is still a distance from being won round.

At a meeting of Championship clubs in Leicester in February, 21 of the 22 chief executives present voted in favour of a motion proposing the Football League "encourage and support the instigation of a rail seat/safe-standing trial period at any League club". Middlesbrough are understood to have been the only club to vote against.

Some clubs believed the League would then begin lobbying the Government over a change in legislation to allow standing in the second tier – as in the Premier League it is banned under a 1994 amendment to the Football Spectators Act 1989 – but the issue was instead dropped as the League remained to be convinced it was a battle worth fighting, despite what one chief executive labelled as an "overwhelming mandate from the Championship".

In a letter sent to Championship clubs in April the League's chief operating officer, Andy Williamson, wrote "it was agreed that the League should not advocate rail seating/safe standing. The matter will not be progressed by the League but if a club wishes to pursue this initiative then that is a matter for them".

It is a response described as a "complete cop-out" by a Championship chief executive who was at the meeting. There is a concern among some Championship clubs that the League does not have the appetite to push the issue, given the stance of the Premier League and the government. Without the support of the Football League there is no chance of Championship clubs being given permission to hold trials of a system based on the model successfully used in Germany, where seats can be tipped up to allow standing for designated fixtures. Club grounds have to be licensed by the Sports Ground Safety Authority, which has no plans to allow standing.

The SGSA no longer opposes the contemporary version of standing because of safety issues, but it and the Association of Chief Police Officers cite concerns over crowd management. Another executive at a Championship club suggested the authorities were too ready to use the spectre of hooliganism as a "convenient" way to reject any move towards standing.

The Government could instruct the SGSA to allow trials to take place but, without the backing of the Premier and Football Leagues, is unlikely to be convinced, as the Sports Minister, Hugh Robertson, put it late last year, of the "very clear demand" for its return.

Yet the number of clubs in favour of safe standing is growing. Both the promoted clubs, Cardiff City and Hull City, support it, as do Crystal Palace and Watford, who contest the play-off final next week. Aston Villa, Sunderland, Newcastle United and Swansea City are in favour, while senior figures at West Ham United and Arsenal have indicated a willingness to explore the issue. David Gold, West Ham's chairman, wants a rail-seat section in the Olympic Stadium.

Villa have emerged as the biggest supporters among top-flight clubs, having even earmarked an area within Villa Park where a trial would be staged. Outside the top flight support is widespread. Brentford also back safe standing – their chairman, Greg Dyke, is soon to take on the chairmanship of the Football Association.
 




hybrid_x

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Jun 28, 2011
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if this was only in the championship fans in the prem would be cheering for relegation.


but the safe standing stuff is pretty lame - no bundles or surges....so little point.
 


Postman Pat

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Jul 24, 2007
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How can Middlesborough be against it?? Surely they actually have to have fans that attend games before they worry about standing!!!!!!???

Surprised it was them that voted against, I thought from previous threads on here that Barber and Hebbard were anti-safe standing at the Amex. Would think it would be us voting against.
 


RM-Taylor

He's Magic.... You Know
Jan 7, 2006
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The article mentions that 22 chief executives attended the meeting and 21 were in favour. I fully suspect that we were one of the two that were not at the meeting.
 




KZNSeagull

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Nov 26, 2007
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Wolsingham, County Durham
Surprised it was them that voted against, I thought from previous threads on here that Barber and Hebbard were anti-safe standing at the Amex. Would think it would be us voting against.

It is not their decision - it is the board's. The principle objection I heard from them was that TB had just spent a fortune on the stadium and fitted the most comfortable seats and now some people were asking him to spend another mini-fortune taking them all out again and replacing them with something else!

I would imagine that if other clubs went for it, then we would too. Long way to go yet though.
 


seagullsovergrimsby

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Aug 21, 2005
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Crap Town
The article mentions that 22 chief executives attended the meeting and 21 were in favour. I fully suspect that we were one of the two that were not at the meeting.
Or 2 of them were not there when the vote was taken to avoid being recorded as abstentions ?
 








Commander

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Apr 28, 2004
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if this was only in the championship fans in the prem would be cheering for relegation.


but the safe standing stuff is pretty lame - no bundles or surges....so little point.

Go and stand on one of those terraces in Germany and then see what you think. It's fantastic. It's not quite the same as it was on the terraces here, but it's pretty bloody close. And it is a lot safer, which is surely a good thing.
 


Publius Ovidius

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Jul 5, 2003
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After taylor's report that led to all seater stadiums was based on LIES and FLAWED information delivered by police officers covering their spineless backsides at Hillsborough as REVEALED by the Panorama programme the other night, I think that this is the prefect time to revisit this.
 


father_and_son

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Jan 23, 2012
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Under the Police Box
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-to-push-for-safestanding-trials-8626274.html

The Football League is facing mounting pressure to back trials for safe standing after an overwhelming majority of Championship clubs went against the League's stance and voted in favour of permitting trials at a meeting...

Interesting stuff, but irrelevant for us.

Having spent so much on a shiny new stadium there is no way the club will waste money on replacing seating with safe standing for years yet.

This is the only factor which makes me wish we had a crumbling old shed rather than our fantastic home.

Thanks PP
 



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