Stephen Dobbie - Talisman? Should he be our water boy?

Helen Chamberlains Quim · Apr 21, 2013

2010 On loan to Blackpool, played in the Final, scored in the second leg, Blackpool promoted.

2011 Back with Swansea, played in the Final, scored in the final, Swansea promoted.

Footballers are a superstitious lot by their own admission, surely we wouldn't want him lurking around on a protracted loan elsewhere would we?

Couldn't Be Hyypia · Apr 21, 2013

Is the deal that he can't play against us in the play offs or that he can't play in the play offs?

KJP · Apr 21, 2013

Can't play against us I would think

lighthouse · Apr 21, 2013

TRHK said:
Is the deal that he can't play against us in the play offs or that he can't play in the play offs?

Just can't play against us I believe. From the clips on the FL show last night he looked their best player.

Helen Chamberlains Quim · Apr 21, 2013

TRHK said:
Is the deal that he can't play against us in the play offs or that he can't play in the play offs?

I don't know the correct answer to that but at worse he should be named as magic sponge bearer or Charlie's dome polisher for us!

BensGrandad · Apr 21, 2013

I dont know what message it would send out even if we could recall him for the final also if he played in the semis for Palace could he be named in our squad for the final. I thought that the idea of the 2 week break in his loan was so that he would be eligible for the play offs for Palace

TSB · Apr 21, 2013

He's on-loan to Palace until June 30th and signs for them permanently the next day.

Good riddance.

Couldn't Be Hyypia · Apr 21, 2013

I suspect you are right BG. Would be an odd deal otherwise.

Blue Valkyrie · Apr 21, 2013

The deal is he can't play against us in the playoff semis, but can against anyone else.

He cannot play at all in the final, regardless of who it is against.

Deleted member 18477 · Apr 21, 2013

Blue Valkyrie said:
The deal is he can't play against us in the playoff semis, but can against anyone else.

He cannot play at all in the final, regardless of who it is against.

Eh?

kevo · Apr 21, 2013

Blue Valkyrie said:
The deal is he can't play against us in the playoff semis, but can against anyone else.

He cannot play at all in the final, regardless of who it is against.

Is that correct? Surely he just can't play against us?

BensGrandad · Apr 22, 2013

Blue Valkyrie said:
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He cannot play at all in the final, regardless of who it is against.

Surely that cant be right he must be at least eligible to play for Palace provided it is not against us.

Djmiles · Apr 22, 2013

I was under the impression he can't play in the play offs full stop.

OSRGull · Apr 22, 2013

Don't know if anyone else notice but the football league show bloke covering the palace highlights couldn't get his tongue out Dobbies arse.

EDS · Apr 22, 2013

Basically his loan officially ends before the final and he cannot sign for us as he has already played for two clubs etc so he cannot play for us again until the new season.

Wozza · Apr 22, 2013

Eaglesdestroyseagulls said:
Basically his loan officially ends before the final and he cannot sign for us as he has already played for two clubs etc so he cannot play for us again until the new season.

Yep.

Helen Chamberlains Quim · Apr 22, 2013

Eaglesdestroyseagulls said:
Basically his loan officially ends before the final and he cannot sign for us as he has already played for two clubs etc so he cannot play for us again until the new season.

So essentially his loan expires at the end of the league season and the pay offs are deemed to be outside of this arrangement. By default then we could have him back and name him as that sub that will not get on or leave him in limbo.
Either works for me! As long as he isn't involved his talismanic magic would be held in limbo.

Blue Valkyrie · Apr 22, 2013

Eaglesdestroyseagulls said:
Basically his loan officially ends before the final and he cannot sign for us as he has already played for two clubs etc so he cannot play for us again until the new season.

This is correct.

Technically he is a palace player for the semis ( but he cannot play v us ), and a Brighton player for the final ( but won't [ cannot? ] play for us ).

Neither side can back out of the deal for Palace to sign him on July 1st.

Nathan · Apr 22, 2013

Why wasn't the deal to include him playing in the final?

Blue Valkyrie · Apr 22, 2013

Nathan said:
Why wasn't the deal to include him playing in the final?

Because it was impossible under the rules due to maximum length of initial loan being 93 days. This could be in chunks of > 28 days, but the last chunk had to start before the loan window shut, meaning there was no way the playoff final could be covered by it, as the initial loan chunk started on Jan 31st.

Complicated, and hard to explain without a calendar, but the dates just couldn't be made to work to include the final.

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