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piersa

piersa

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Apr 17, 2011
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Monkey Man

Monkey Man

Your support is not that great
Jan 30, 2005
3,157
Neither here nor there
Ha. Says it all when "grassroots Tories" get upset by things like gay marriage, green taxes and international aid. Presumably that time and money is better expended on pointless wars, divisive social policy and the dismantling of the public sector.
 






PWA

PWA

European Tour 2023/24
Jul 23, 2011
1,467
West Sussex






piersa

piersa

Well-known member
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3,155
London


hybrid_x

hybrid_x

Banned
Jun 28, 2011
2,225
but there hasnt been any sort of real goverment for years - just a media theatre front for the corporate and banking elite.
 




piersa

piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
hybrid_x said:
but there hasnt been any sort of real goverment for years - just a media theatre front for the corporate and banking elite.
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I am certainly no politician and do not know the intricate ins and outs of it. What you say makes sense to me.
 


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Lincoln Imp

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Feb 2, 2009
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The depressing thing about our politics is that the 'radical' fringes on both left and right actually consist of deeply conservative old fossils fighting ancient battles fuelled by tired old ideas cribbed from books about Waterloo or Wapping.
 


Norman Potting

Norman Potting

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Nov 5, 2006
13,966
Sussex, Sussex not by the sea and actually nearer
Lincoln Imp said:
The depressing thing about our politics is that the 'radical' fringes on both left and right actually consist of deeply conservative old fossils fighting ancient battles fuelled by tired old ideas cribbed from books about Waterloo or Wapping.
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That is very profound for NSC, and also true imho.
 






East Preston Gull

East Preston Gull

New member
Oct 7, 2003
1,571
Was East Preston but now gone west to bognor....wi
Lincoln Imp said:
The depressing thing about our politics is that the 'radical' fringes on both left and right actually consist of deeply conservative old fossils fighting ancient battles fuelled by tired old ideas cribbed from books about Waterloo or Wapping.
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At least with far left and far right you know what they stand for, you have your choice and you can say yay or ney! With these three media study graduates who run the expense fiddling fun groups, no one has a bloody clue! Ukip for me this time and that breaks my political heart.no choice, no option!
 


glasfryn

glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
Monkey Man said:
Ha. Says it all when "grassroots Tories" get upset by things like gay marriage, green taxes and international aid. Presumably that time and money is better expended on pointless wars, divisive social policy and the dismantling of the public sector.
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they might also be upset at the sniveling little turd:sick: giving the European bank 12 billion of our money while some here struggle

this is not to mention the 7 billion he gave/lent to the Irish
 




piersa

piersa

Well-known member
Apr 17, 2011
3,155
London
glasfryn said:
they might also be upset at the sniveling little turd:sick: giving the European bank 12 billion of our money while some here struggle

this is not to mention the 7 billion he gave/lent to the Irish
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Yep, I don't understand that. Are we obliged to give that to them because we are in the EU?
 


Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
59,467
The Fatherland
glasfryn said:
this is not to mention the 7 billion he gave/lent to the Irish
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Was this the same money that saved turning the previously invested billions into dust? As much as I dislike the Tory party helpiing save the Irish economy was a sensible thing to do given the UK's vested interest.
 


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pork pie

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Pogue Mahone

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Apr 30, 2011
10,732
pork pie said:
Yep, with Call me Dave trying to be like Blair. We need some good old fashioned Tories to sort this mess out. Why the hell did they even get involved in "gay" weddings, they should have left well alone?
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Because it's 2013, the world has moved on, 1950s' bigoted attitudes are finally being consigned to the past, and the Tories are making an effort to show that they are relevant. This, while trying to hide the fact that their policies are more damagingly right wing than Thatcher.
 




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pork pie

New member
Dec 27, 2008
6,053
Pork pie land.
Lincoln Imp said:
The depressing thing about our politics is that the 'radical' fringes on both left and right actually consist of deeply conservative old fossils fighting ancient battles fuelled by tired old ideas cribbed from books about Waterloo or Wapping.
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Not really right that is it? Look at the lot near the front benches for both Labour and Conservaties, they all studied the same degrees in politics at Oxbridge. They are the ones that have read the old mantras. Most left and right wing polititions are "natural" and have training and/or an education and/or prior careers in things outside politics.
 


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Pogue Mahone

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Apr 30, 2011
10,732
pork pie said:
Not really right that is it? Look at the lot near the front benches for both Labour and Conservaties, they all studied the same degrees in politics at Oxbridge. They are the ones that have read the old mantras. Most left and right wing polititions are "natural" and have training and/or an education and/or prior careers in things outside politics.
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Most right wing politicians throughout history are products of public school followed by Oxbridge. With very few exceptions.
 


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