Rules relating to loan players?

drew

Drew

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Burgess Hill

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Can anyone clarify the rules relating to loan players as, according to my calculations, from the 42 min when Neuton Piccoli came on, Watford fielded 7 players on loan! According to the link below, this would seem to suggest they were outside the rules (see rule 52 and in particular rule 52.3.1. I can't believe this hasn't been spotted so assume they are within the rules although I can't see it. Can someone point me in the right direction!

The Football League | About Us | Regulations | Regulations Detail | Section 6 - Players

 

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Mutts Nuts

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drew said:

Can anyone clarify the rules relating to loan players as, according to my calculations, from the 42 min when Neuton Piccoli came on, Watford fielded 7 players on loan! According to the link below, this would seem to suggest they were outside the rules (see rule 52 and in particular rule 52.3.1. I can't believe this hasn't been spotted so assume they are within the rules although I can't see it. Can someone point me in the right direction!

The Football League | About Us | Regulations | Regulations Detail | Section 6 - Players

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I don`t have a programme are you sure they played 7 loan players as the rule states only 5 loan players can be named in any one team,i would be surprised if 7 on the teamsheet went unnoticed

 

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JJB

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Is that not 'domestic' loan players? Players from abroad don't count!

 

drew

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Mutts Nuts said:

I don`t have a programme are you sure they played 7 loan players as the rule states only 5 loan players can be named in any one team,i would be surprised if 7 on the teamsheet went unnoticed

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Neuton Piccoli Udinese (replaced Hall on 42 mins)
Daniel Pudil Udinese
Chalobah Chelsea
Ekstrand Udinese
Anya Udinese (replaced on 73 mins by Bia on loan from Standard Liege)
Abdi Udinese (replaced on 80 mins by Battochio from Udinese)
Vydra Udinese

I believe that is right but stand to be corrected!

 

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SamPeters18

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JJB said:

Is that not 'domestic' loan players? Players from abroad don't count!

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from what i know, that includes Overseas players as well which if the case then Watford should be getting punished

 

theonesmith

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JJB said:

Is that not 'domestic' loan players? Players from abroad don't count!

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Where did you get that from? I don't believe there is a distinction between the two...

 

drew

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JJB said:

Is that not 'domestic' loan players? Players from abroad don't count!

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That could be the reason but I can't see anything confirming that in the rules, admittedly only a cursory scan through!

 

skipper734

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They appear to have broken 52. 3.2 as well.

 

drew

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This appears to have been discussed at Charlton as well but seems to have been accepted that it doesn't apply to foreign players although no one can point to the regulation allowing this.

Watford and loans - Charlton Life

 

trueblue

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JJB said:

Is that not 'domestic' loan players? Players from abroad don't count!

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That can be the only reason. Otherwise they'd be breaching the rules all the time.

 

skipper734

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Foreign players are not mentioned at all. Which means one of two things......... Either they are not allowed at all or it's open season on borrowing Barca's B team.
This is something that was obviously not even considered by the brains in the FA. Ha Ha. It certainly in my opinion goes against the spirit of what they were trying to control.

 

theonesmith

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52.3.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (Standard, Emergency or Youth) can be named in the Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match played under the auspices of The League. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 54.

It says loan players. That is pretty comprehensive to me. Unless a separate clause states that foreign loan players are an exception, then all of Watford's loan players fall under this category.

 

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HAILSHAM SEAGULL

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I thought that because they are owned by the family that own Udinese, then they are their parent club, so effectively they are not loan players.
But I may be totally confused.

 

trueblue

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The Watford fan on here didn't like it hit there are some interesting points raised in Martin Samuel's piece. The main thrust - that Watford would struggle, as many people thought - has obviously turned out to be wrong. But their success makes the issue even more important in many ways. The Championship shouldn't be a reserve league for foreign clubs.

Watford are a snapshot of all that's wrong with modern football: Martin Samuel | Mail Online

 

skipper734

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[FONT=arial, tahoma, verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]52.2 Standard and Emergency loan transfers shall be allowed to or from Clubs in membership of The Football League, The Premier League, The Football Conference, Northern Premier League, Isthmian League and Southern League providing the rules and regulations of the respective leagues so allow. Youth loan transfers shall be allowed to or from Clubs in membership of The Football League, The Premier League and the Football Conference (National Division) only. Players may also be sent on youth Loan to the Football Conference (North and South) divisions. This is always subject to rules of the relevant League.[/FONT]


[FONT=arial, tahoma, verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]People in other countries don't play football obviously.[/FONT]

 

withdeanwombat

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[FONT=arial, tahoma, verdana, helvetica, sans-serif]People in other countries don't play football obviously.[/FONT][/QUOTE]

Well,whatever it was Watford were playing,let's play that.

 

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I think anyone moaning too much about loan system should remember we have a left back who earns £80,000 a week more than we pay him...

 

skipper734

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withdeanwombat said:

People in other countries don't play football obviously.

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Well,whatever it was Watford were playing,let's play that.[/QUOTE]

We can't. We haven't got 14 or so foreign loan players!

 

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SamPeters18 said:

from what i know, that includes Overseas players as well which if the case then Watford should be getting punished

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punished = stripped of points not cash fine which is meaningless

 

skipper734

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Walt Jabsco said:

I think anyone moaning too much about loan system should remember we have a left back who earns £80,000 a week more than we pay him...

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Cummon Walt you can do better than that.