Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
However provide contributions by employing people who pay tax and NI notwithstanding a colossal amount of VAT on goods sold.
However it does all appear very easy to do so the laws need to change
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Starbucks - UK tax 'avoiders'
- Thread starter The Large One
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However provide contributions by employing people who pay tax and NI notwithstanding a colossal amount of VAT on goods sold.
However it does all appear very easy to do so the laws need to change
BensGrandad
New member
One of my sons went out with a manageress of a Starbucks at a supermarket and she told me that her target for a weeks taking was £8000 and she rarely failed to reach it. Many weeks she passed it easily and expected it to be increased at the next revue. Thats a minimum of £400k in just 1 branch.
Bwian
Kiss my (_!_)
- Jul 14, 2003
- 15,898
Isn't it the Employees who pay the tax and most NI contributions? As for the VAT, it is the customer who pays it, the seller is merely a tax collector. Most companies pay NO VAT on items/goods that they purchase-they buy something that has VAT on their invoice but immediately claim it back. It is only the poor retail customer who pays VAT. Or have I completely missed something in your post?
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 35,302
employers pay 13.8% NI contribution, in addition to employees contributions.
Bwian
Kiss my (_!_)
- Jul 14, 2003
- 15,898
That's why I said 'most'.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Yes but they provide employment and sell goods which generates revenue for the government
pb21
Well-known member
- Apr 23, 2010
- 6,293
So that makes it ok for them to avoid paying there fair share taxes, that other similar companies pay?
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Absolutely not if you read a bit further back you will see I have stated the tax laws need to change. All I am saying is they still indirectly provide tax revenue by employing people and also selling goods.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I mentioned Apple in post 64.
otk
~(.)(.)~
Starbucks, Google and Amazon up in front of a Parliamentary committee today re: tax avoidance
No doubt squirming like a fish caught on a hook
No doubt squirming like a fish caught on a hook
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somerset
New member
It is indeed a fine line they have to tread, grab more tax of course, but all the time trying to give them incentives to trade in this country... invest in this country..... employ in this country.
This government at least should be congratulated for being the only one of either colour in living memory to tackle this in earnest.... well done them.
BadFish
Huge Member
- Oct 19, 2003
- 17,102
It is a shame it takes the meltdown of the global financial system and the country to be close to bankruptcy for them to address it though.
The Modfather
New member
This government should also look at a tax system that allows footballs clubs to run up unpaid taxes running into millions whilst penaling the small businessman if there dare be a week late with payment.
Freddie Goodwin.
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Chicken Runner61
We stand where we want!
- May 20, 2007
- 4,609
Lovely bit of response to Starbucks "setting the record Straight on Tax" here - bet he wished he disabled the comments!
Setting the Record Straight on Starbucks UK Taxes and Profitability | Starbucks Coffee Company
Setting the Record Straight on Starbucks UK Taxes and Profitability | Starbucks Coffee Company
Tricky Dicky
New member
Not surprised at all the comments. I watched Starbuck, Amazon & Google in front of the commitee and thought they all perfomed appalingly - the had no real answes to the panels questioning. I look forward to see what sort of slump in sales that particularly Starbucks has - maybe they'll legitimately be declaring losses then !
Tricky Dicky
New member
Not surprised at all the comments. I watched Starbuck, Amazon & Google in front of the commitee and thought they all perfomed appalingly - the had no real answes to the panels questioning. I look forward to see what sort of slump in sales that particularly Starbucks has - maybe they'll legitimately be declaring losses then !
And employ people on such low wages they get tax credits...ie costs the tax payer.
nwgull
Well-known member
I actually think that publicising the tax avoidance - i.e. legal non payment of corp tax - is the most effective thing that the goverment can do in cases like this. There is a choice of similar coffee chains in the UK; it's up to the UK public to boycott Starbucks until they pay their fair share.
Or close the loop hole or prevent them opening here? It's unfair on other businesses which do not have the means, or lack of morals, to have a shady international tax operation. Really, what good do companies like Starbucks do for the little person? The employment idea does not wash with me as someone will fill the void, they employ people on really low wages and the tax credits the low wages engender hit other people.