When all it actually means is "Hail [to] Victory"....If you are caught saying this in Germany for any reason other than that of art, teaching or science purposes you can get a 3 years in the nick!
I'm sure it's about its connotations with the Nazi party, but is it not worth claiming it back? The Swastika stood for well being before the Nazi's claimed it, can't this be claimed back to? In the same way Englanders have claimed back the cross of St George from the fascists? People in Germany get arrested for showing this symbol anywhere, even if its in an antifascist demonstration!
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A controversy was stirred by the decision of several police departments to begin inquiries against anti-fascists.[41] In late 2005 police raided the offices of the punklabel and mailorder "Nix Gut Records" and confiscated merchandise depicting crossed-out swastikas and fists smashing swastikas.[42] In 2006 the Stade police department started an inquiry against anti-fascist youths using a placard, depicting a person dumping a swastika into a trashcan. The placard was displayed in opposition to the campaign of right-wing nationalist parties for local elections.[43]
On Friday, March 17, 2006 member of the Bundestag Claudia Roth reported herself to the German police for displaying a crossed-out swastika on multiple demonstrations against Neo-Nazis, and subsequently got the Bundestag to suspend her immunity from prosecution. She intends to show the absurdity of charging anti-fascists with using fascist symbols: "We don't need prosecution of non-violent young people engaging against right-wing extremism."[42]
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Looked it up on wiki and we get a footnote.. ""The Sun newspaper reported that Millwall F.C. sung 'Sieg Heil', during a Millwall v Brighton Match at The New Den. Millwall denied this, and said they were mocking Brighton's chant of "Seagulls"."
Now please no racist rubbish or personal attacks, I think this is actually quite an interesting debate!
I'm sure it's about its connotations with the Nazi party, but is it not worth claiming it back? The Swastika stood for well being before the Nazi's claimed it, can't this be claimed back to? In the same way Englanders have claimed back the cross of St George from the fascists? People in Germany get arrested for showing this symbol anywhere, even if its in an antifascist demonstration!
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A controversy was stirred by the decision of several police departments to begin inquiries against anti-fascists.[41] In late 2005 police raided the offices of the punklabel and mailorder "Nix Gut Records" and confiscated merchandise depicting crossed-out swastikas and fists smashing swastikas.[42] In 2006 the Stade police department started an inquiry against anti-fascist youths using a placard, depicting a person dumping a swastika into a trashcan. The placard was displayed in opposition to the campaign of right-wing nationalist parties for local elections.[43]
On Friday, March 17, 2006 member of the Bundestag Claudia Roth reported herself to the German police for displaying a crossed-out swastika on multiple demonstrations against Neo-Nazis, and subsequently got the Bundestag to suspend her immunity from prosecution. She intends to show the absurdity of charging anti-fascists with using fascist symbols: "We don't need prosecution of non-violent young people engaging against right-wing extremism."[42]
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Looked it up on wiki and we get a footnote.. ""The Sun newspaper reported that Millwall F.C. sung 'Sieg Heil', during a Millwall v Brighton Match at The New Den. Millwall denied this, and said they were mocking Brighton's chant of "Seagulls"."
Now please no racist rubbish or personal attacks, I think this is actually quite an interesting debate!
