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Is it not all about the result? I've renewed my st for years before Vicente even considered coming here, never has an individual player "made" me renew. As good as his derby performance was I could most probably show you half a dozen other appearances where he was a passenger and offered...

I don't know what "proof" you want tbh, and as it's an opinion I neither need or want to prove anything to you or anyone else. I never said he wasn't a good player I said he was a bad signing, there is a difference.

How many games did we win with Vicente on the pitch?

As I posted he promised loads and delivered little.

Best Upson or PIG Worst Vicente for promising so much and delivering so little