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I am not going to write a thousand page document on Iraq reform. Saddam was weak and on his knees before we went in there and there is a very strong argument that the war was illegal anyway. War is barbaric whichever way you look at it and the West has to lead by example, not teach the Middle...

It was a war zone that we created, and hundreds were being killed by car bombs on a daily basis. It's easy to say that only 140,000 civilians were killed even if that figure was correct, only :lolol: you can probably times that figure by four if you include the seriously injured, amputees and...

No but I got a Vectone free sim mobile ad, with a call Iraq at 6p a minute. Didn't know that Google Ads reached into forums on this level to spy on comments. Until now.

Iraq study estimates war-related deaths at 461,000 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24547256 Of course his sons were worse than he was, but we were in a position to push Iraq to reform and oversee a smooth transition so that they were not part of the future. We chose to flatten the...

But that said, when they held the elections the choice was either the old regime or the rebels who were represented by the Muslim Brotherhood. Not great options but once the Muslim Brotherhood took over the people of Egypt suddenly had second thoughts and demanded that the military take it over...

Grappling with unwelcome results of a revolution that he encouraged, President Obama told Egyptian President Mohammed Morsi in a phone call Tuesday that he has a responsibility to “protect the democratic principles” that Egyptians fought for............ read more here...

Egypt :facepalm: The West goaded the uprising in Egypt and then the Muslim Brotherhood got into power only to lose it again. The West misled the Syrian rebels teasing them with help and then giving none. What did you expect Asad to do with weapons aimed at him, probably the same as what the...

Can you simplify it much more for me? If that’s all you can think of then fair enough, but I really haven’t got time to write an essay for you if you are unable to think outside the box.

Yes I think you have missed something, the West encouraged the uprisings and in the case of Libya and Syria we promised air support and weapons to the rebels.

Rubbish, are you saying there were only two options: Go to War or Ignore? There was another option but you obviously only see it limited to two.

My mistake Iraqi lives taken in human years is more like 150 million years.

Are you ignoring the fact that the US provided arms and chemical weapons to Iraq to fight their own war against Iran. Six million died over the eight years of war between them. The west made him the man he was in the first place.

Yep we could have used him in the right way and brought the country forward and through transition. Lets face it he probably only had a few more years left of rule because of his age and may well have died from natural causes by now. We took 5 or 10 years off his life at the cost of death and...

I agree, some people think there were two options; Leave him to it, or bomb the hell out of Iraq. There was a third option, force him to reform and send the UN in to oversee the human rights. The trouble is we raised the country to the ground and have now left them to it. The country had good...