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By your logic (for point B), it's never the fault of the manager and only ever the fault of the players as no manager can ever "rush onto the field and go in two-footed in de Bruyne" ("in De Bruyne" sounds filthy by the way). And yet managers regularly lose their jobs ahead of players, so...

Genuine question, did you just rate a manager a 9 after we lost a game?

Sure, but I don't rate my fullbacks solely on their defensive performance. I might also be mistaken but he seemed to give the ball away a fair amount.

Didn't we lose the game?

Defensively yes. I thought he didn't have his best game going forward though, to be honest.

Dunk and Montoya were 8s for me, Bissouma and Knockaert were 7s and the rest were 6s.