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My point wasn't that only the establishment weren't in favour, but that these are the people with the ability to influence the format. MPs are already almost unanimously style over substance, I don't think the debates make a jot of difference either way. If these debates were well organised...

While we all know that's how it works in theory, in practice it seems to me that the vast majority of the electorate vote on a party, rather than MP, basis. The idea of voting for an MP only works if you don't have a party hierarchy in place going into the election, and MPs are forced to stand...

I agree. I think the problem is that quite a few people within the "establishment", including politicians and broadcasters, think that they are a bit unseemly and American, and are therefore not really keen on the whole thing. Thus Cameron has been able to get away with his position more or less...