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So black people are 44 times more likely to be detained under the mental health act. If it's not genetic. What's driving that?

"African-Caribbean people are six times more likely than whites to be diagnosed as schizophrenic, but research shows this is nothing to do with biology." That's the point I'm making, it's not genetic so therefore it is to do with black people's living conditions ergo they are at a societal...

You appear to have missed post #76.

However, misguided you feel this particular protest is, this thread was clearly going to be used to downplay the general conversation around the demonstrable disadvantages black people face in this country. Black Lives Matter is bigger than that one issue.

It bears repeating chap, black people aren't portraying themselves as victims. That was your original supposition and it's demonstrably false. Anyway Corbyn's got at least 2 tricks.

The OP used the phrase "Or is it just another opportunity to portray yourself as a victim." It's perfectly clear what the intention of this thread is. I'm merely making the point that black people in this country ARE the victim. Statistically. It's not even a debate.

I don't suppose you'd have any evidence to back this up would you?

Not at all. We can discuss racism all we like, I just think that if you're in denial about being born black being a disadvantage to your life chances in this country then it'll be a fairly pointless exercise.

Do you see how in this thread the usual suspects are having a bun fight about how non-racist they are and oh so cleverly mocking the blacklivesmatter movement? The point I'm making is if a person seriously thinks you are not at a disadvantage to be born black in this country then they are...

I never said it was down to racism. In fact I'm at pains on this thread to point out that I actually think that white people soul searching about whether they are racist or not isn't massively helpful. There is a problem, we have an obligation as a society to act and not to try and belittle or...

Bingo. That's exactly the point I'm trying to get to. I have a hunch that race plays a part but even if you take race out of the picture we as a society need to be improving life chances for the disadvantaged. This by definition would improve the situation without the need of a load of white...

No because I don't feel the need to ignore the simple fact that black kids have lower life chances in this country and pretend that we as a society don't have an obligation to try and change that.

No, you can talk about it all you like. I'm saying that talking about what is and isn't racist is a distraction from the real problem. Regardless of whether you or I think we are racist or not black kids born today in this country are at a disadvantage in comparison to white kids. That's the...

But by talking about racism from our position of privilege we turn it into a debate about a concept when it should be a debate about real life. The facts are unarguable, a black child born in this country has lower life chances than a white kid. That's not right. It doesn't really matter if you...

It's interesting that everyone's banging on about racism. It's almost a red herring. Black kids have lower life chances than white kids in this country by a significant margin. That's not right. All this rubbish of a load of white guys non-ironically discussing what racism is and isn't, is...

Black people 2 times more likely to die in Police Custody 37 times more likely to be stopped and searched 3 times more likely to be arrested 44 times more likely to be detained under the mental health act 3 times more likely to be unemployed Than white people.