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I know where you are coming from, it depends on how you look at it. On top of his game he can be a devastating strike bowler. I just think that bowling in a 4 man attack in Test cricket has blunted his effectiveness, I suspect he's hardly ever fully fit and normally bowling well within his...

Little bit harsh I reckon. He's been one of the few brighter spots of a horrible, horrible winter. I reckon his bowling average at 27 is better than Flintoff's was.

They won this tournament 4 or 5 years ago under Paul Collingwood. Guess who player of the tournament was?

Who needs KP eh?

Was anyone clever enough to back Holland here? Dispirited England, Holland have had a decent tournament, dead rubber. I thought about it.