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Don't disagree with any of that. All I was saying is that schemes like that, public sector funded schemes, were partly paid for out of taxation through employer contributions. You're clearly correct that some public sector employers (and many, many more private sector employers - Maxwell and...

I don't think all this private sector vs public sector stuff really gets to the heart of the issue. For me the key points are: 1) state pension is not, and never will be sufficient, on its own to provide a decent standard of living for most people in their old age. Greater longevity and pressure...

Your general point is correct, but I think it's a bit more complex than you suggest, isn't it? Firstly, in nearly every case a public sector pension will also be partly paid for by the contributions made by the public sector employer (in turn funded through taxation) - so partly taxation funded...