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I didn't miss your point. I understand what you were saying. Since you said it was 50:50 at best whether it was a pen, I added my viewpoint. That's all. I think I made the same point as you're making now during a recent VAR Spurs match when there were calls which were not clear and obvious.

I just want to comment on the misrepresentation of the quote by the BBC (not sure where you got it from but I saw similar on the BBC website). When asked whether it was a penalty, Tarkowski laughed and said "it never is", implying when the decisions go against you, they are always wrong. He...

Oh. Then I'm just going to correct that I didn't mean to suggest he did it intentionally to produce contact! Just that his foot went out into Tarkowski's stride, however that occurred.

I didn't see that. If that's what the pen was given for and it was correct, no problem. But the VAR feed seemed to be focusing on the foot, slowing it down at the point of contact. If the pen was for Tarkowski's contact, then I don't think it's a pen, even if Young forced the Italian's foot into...

I don't think it was a pen because the player put his foot out into Tarkowski's stride, which is the only reason he got stood on. He was going down at the time. Not sure the ref will have seen that in the heat of the moment, instead focusing on the studs on the foot. Reminded me a bit of the...

The fault of the ref or the fault of the people in the controlling station? Who decides whether there has been a clear and obvious error? Does the ref only get involved after the people behind the scenes think there has been a clear and obvious error? If the ref thinks there's a foul based on...

The refs are always a lot more lenient in friendlies.

That fing band is already doing my head in. Get rid of them!

If you have no interest then why are you on this thread? You could have decided not to open it. It's quite clearly titled. Instead, for some reason, you're desperate to make a point about how the national team doesn't interest you. :shrug: