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I agree with a lot of what you say but not of course your conclusions ! I don't think the rest of Europe has ever been in doubt about the political intent of the eu. "Ever closer union" says it all. In the uk politicians have clearly never believed in this or have never thought they could carry...

I'm not trying to have the last word honestly! However in answer to your post 98 I will pose another question which can be rhetorical if you don't want to pursue things further. If you were a member of a club which you thought was a good thing and you wanted to keep going ; and one important...

I'm sure you do think it's fair. But that sums up UKIP doesn't it. UKIP people want life to be simple and how "t used to be". Except that it never was simple and it certainly isn't now. So their collective response in frustration is "bollocks"! and they retreat into simplistic "certainties". In...

I don't need to ask my parents -I was there! It's difficult to know how to respond to "bollocks" in an intelligent way. Still that's the attraction of UKIP isn't it. Life is simple No need for intelligent debate just emotive "straight talking" "from the heart". God help us! Putin respects...

The thing is the EU has never been just an economic project. Whisper it softly but it has always been a political project. Historically it was a response to two world wars and you can argue it has helped deliver peace and prosperity in Europe. Now it is a beacon to former Soviet Union countries...

My point -probably badly made -was that scaremongering has not done ukip any harm. It is what they do and apparently they are about to win the euro election

scaremongering? what about - 26million unemployed Europeans after your job - 29million Bulgarians and Romanians waiting to swamp the UK - EU costs £50m per day...

And we will have lemonade and cake for tea! What world do you inhabit? Do you really think China Japan the US India etc will give a monkeys about little old UK. Do you not think that when Nissan are thinking about a new plant there will be a little French or German or Brussels voice in their ear...

It wouldn't. But guess what? They would all insist that we follow the rules of the single market. And I would also guess they would be in no rush to accommodate us. And companies from all over the would suddenly think that investing in the UK in order to access the EU would not make sense. And...

Brave try to introduce balance intelligence and common sense. Unlikely to work with UKIP supporters though who don't vote on these bases. Their vote is a cry for help, a shout against progress. Such a rump has always existed it is just larger at the moment because of the recent failings of...