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Faversham apparently. Home of the :flounce:

I requested a shotgun emoji but they don’t do one. Consider yourself splattered though! :rock:

And maybe clean up the number of gammon musical threads whilst at it?

You’ve misunderstood. And misquoted. No one is arguing about his greatness. The fallacy of pardoning people 50, 100, 200 years etc afterwards using a completely different set of values to the time is what makes no sense to me nor many others. No matter who you they were or what they did. It’s a...

Of course, in true NSC style, we’ve strayed well off thread now but you keep mentioning righting a wrong, I keep reminding you it wasn’t at the time and we see things very differently now. That’s the crux of the matter and until you accept that? Secondly, so many wrong assertions in your post...

You do know his immediate family didn’t even talk about him after his death because of the associated shame. And ‘we’ weren’t wrong because ‘we’ weren’t alive then. Oh, and he’s on the fifty note because of his achievements as a brilliant mathematician not because he was gay.

They do if it’s a footy chatsite on an iPhone and often as not from the bog. I’m down the pub not doing a ted talk from Ox.

Save us the sanctimony please, this is such a millennial thing to do going about ‘correcting’ everything in the past that we don’t agree with through todays prism. The war generation neither honoured him or even knew about him. In fact, only a tiny number of people did. Anyway, I think Turing is...

None of the above, just read more history and debates about than your average joe. So I’ve thought about it more. Informed myself more. I’m not even taking about Turing really, I’ve widened the context. Pardoning the dead because of what we see as injustice at the time is a fools errand. Trouble...

Oh do piss off, I probably know more history and the nuisances of the subject matter than you can only dream of. You’re judging by today’s standards, not the time. In this particular example, it was way after he died, he left no descendent even and moreover doesn’t change anything. It’s extreme...

Well you won’t read this then will you! Get.Over.Your.Self ‘arry, it’s only because I think pardoning someone who’s dead and gone for a crime at the time is pointless. Along with millions of others. Nothing to do with it being Turing. Or insulting. You’re faux outraging there, careful, without...

In other words, an utter waste of time. Still, keeps the radical left happy and the radical right annoyed so on balance...yep still a waste of time.