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Long odds he will beat Giggs but time will tell. Would be great if he did.

Yep. at the time the chat was that he would go on to play for England. As it is, Barry has gone on to do very well in the prem. He could go on to make the 2nd most prem appearances of all time. That's a pretty big achievement.

how about this chap? Baring injury, would surely have been a regular in the premier league.

One of the worst players I have seen play for the albion!