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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    Of course it is your choice and if it just affected you, then that’d be a different matter. But when your choice have a negative impact on living creatures and the environment, you can’t expect some people not to want to discuss, debate or challenge it.
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    I am not attempting to intimidate you in the slightest. I am merely attempting to understand how people can listen to the facts in regards to animal welfare and the environmental issues, and still choose not to do anything because it ‘tastes good’. Of course, you have the right to choose, but...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    And they treat them in the most appalling way, believing the more suffering the animal goes through the better it will taste.
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    But why not? If you would choose not to put your dog through unnecessary pain and suffering, why would you let it happen to a horse? Is it because you have an emotional connection to your pet or that you acknowledge that your pet feels? What I’m getting at here is that I’m interested in the way...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    I don’t disagree. I don’t think that is what most vegan activism looks like though and I suppose that is the point I am attempting to make.
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    It’s this attitude that breeds ignorance. If you yourself don’t wish to listen then it shows how closed minded you are. There is a whole host of scientific evidence that backs up all that I have said re the environment and just as much regarding the cruel ways in which animals are often kept in...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    But we know animals aren’t always treated well when alive don’t we. We also know animals are sometimes killed in the most horrific ways, the blending up of live male chicks for example. We also know that keeping cows in a sustained state of pregnancy in order to produce milk is cruel and causes...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    K Why wouldn’t I pity someone who lacks empathy towards other living creatures? If caring about animals makes me a ‘cliche’ vegan then you’re right. Both dog and cow feel pain and I wouldn’t inflict pain and suffering on my pets so why would I inflict pain and suffering on a cow? A cows...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    What do you want me to say? Animals are sentient beings that feel pain. You wouldn’t eat your pet dog so why would you eat a cow? The only difference is your perception. If you know and accept that animals feel pain, can suffer and be treated appallingly but won’t stop eating them because they...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    If you put your own tastebuds ahead of a sentient being I won’t despair, I’ll simply pity you and your inability to think of beings other than yourself.
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    It’s from the landmark study by UN in which the world’s leading scientists warned there are just a dozen years in which to keep global warming under 1.5C, beyond which even half a degree will significantly worsen the risks of drought, floods and extreme heat. This was published in October 2018...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    Well firstly it’s not about pushing it on to people, it’s about educating them and saying ‘hey, all the nutrition you get from meat can be found in plants, it’s better for the environment and no animals need to suffer for it’. At the end of the day the environmental reasons alone should be...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    You haven’t really responded to anything I said though have you. If you think that vegan activism starts and ends with ‘hedge monkeys’ it shows how little you know about veganism and the ideology behind it.
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    Vegan activism goes far beyond a small minority that cause grief for people who eat at restaurants or work at burger bars. The vast majority of vegan activism is about raising awareness of the way that animals are treated and exploited as well the environmental issues surrounding a meat based...
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    To fight against the way animals are exploited, for promoting an environmentally friendly lifestyle... Take your pick :shrug:
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    [Politics] Defiant burger-flipper tells 'bullying' vegan activists to 'bring it on'

    Well that’s simply not true. I know plenty of vegan activists who are more civilised than there meat eating counterparts. At the end of the day, some people are just dicks. Doesn’t matter what they eat :shrug:
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