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ooooooohhhhh. So apart from being wrong about the people involved, the winners, the sports they were in and the levels of their achievement, you STILL decided to declare this was all woke and all part of the BBC agenda. I also enjoy that you tell us you don't know any female...

Did you? Also which list exactly are you referring to? The main award? Where 1 of the 6 was a female footballer?

Oh you WOULD pick Kyle Walker wouldn't you. Classic box ticking. Why didn't you pick good ol' PHIL FODEN or John Stones. Woke.

So her selection wasn't "woke" (as you originally said) then? It's just you don't consume it and don't know who she is. The same could be said for the other nominees you didn't know, as you don't consume those sports. So instead of using the term 'woke' you actually wanted to say "I don't know...

I vote for Jimmy Bullard every year cos of his bants

From their own site: "The BBC Sports Personality of the Year is a ceremony to honour the greatest British sporting achievements of the past 12 months" Pretty straight forward.

The Olympics has a much bigger audience than the events you are referencing. A double Olympic champion would win.

Why not? Did I get it spot on? Rather than simply saying they are from sports you don't know, you've doubled down on the selections being 'woke' . So I ask again, if the choices for TOTP were people you didn't know, would that also be 'Woke'? I guess if the people you didn't recognise were...

Yes. Obviously. A double Olympic Champion would get more votes than the England women's goalkeeper who lost a final.

Funnily enough you didn't manage to name a woman in the best winners (maybe Paula Radcliffe, Kelly Holmes,) but did mention Gazza and David Beckham. Gazza was for doing well for England up to a semi final at a WC. Beckham was for beating Greece.....

But it's all dependant on the year isn't it. We all know 2023 wasn't a stellar year of sport. Non-Olympic year etc. There will be years (I imagine 2012) where winners in ANY other year would be finishing outside the top 3. If Mary Earps was up against a double olympic Champion then of course...

I really hope that's a reference to what I think it is :lolol: Lovely stuff.

In that situation would you also call it 'Woke' (as you did with the Sports Personality nominees you didn't know), or is that only saved for if the people you haven't heard of fall into a certain category of society? If it's white male musicians you haven't heard of then that would just be...

Without reading this thread I BET there are people who have completely misunderstood the word 'personality' means person and then made some comment about personality traits. Every. Year.