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No problem Hillian1 - my first post was a little facetious to say the least. It is hard when it fails you just have to get used to the idea that your life will take a different path. More time to see the Albion, being able to please yourself 100% of the time and getting plently of sleep are a...

Agreed Dr.... Its a thoroughtly miserable experience. I am sorry it didnt work out for you and your partner too.

On reflection you are of course right people should have hope and IVF has been a miracle for millions of people. Picking up the peices is not so easy when you reach the point of failure and the realization that you wont have children, no junior seagull for me. I just feel now looking back on...

Like i said i am sure its all very good when it works - but when do you last spend 20K and get nothing - other than emotional trauma and distress. When it doesnt work sometimes you wish you never had the option. Dashed hope is worse than no hope at all.

Mmmm i am sure its all very good when it works... £20k down the bloody toilet for me - thanks for nothing Bob.