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Then they can be both. AGAIN you dodge the question I asked you. Its not unreasonable to ask your motives. You are crowding a debate where you are free from the consequences of your views, wereas those resident have to face the possible outcome of your views. It is quite reasonable to ask you if...

they are not. Genuine asylum seekers head for the nearest safe haven. European Law says they are supposed to apply at the first country they arrive at, they are criminals. so what are your motives for continually posting uninformed opinions in these types of threads seeing you've departed to...

Its not irrelevant at all. Firstly you have been quick to impinge motives for people holding particular views, including calling me a racist the first time you found yourself out of your depth intellectually with me. Secondly It does not concern any private behaviour or information that...

I didn't pick out the 2 i just pointed out they can be addressed together, also the apriori question is how many do we want to take not how many can come and why, thats due to people being here are sovereign. Which leads me back to the other question you dodged, why are you so intent on...

How are these distinctions relevant to impacts on population density and scarece resources? Why are you so intent on lecturing the population of the country that you left?