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Summary of things: We've got a man called Jesus that virtually all scholars agree was crucified. The Bible says that he was given a crown of thorns and speared in the side with a Roman spear. We have an empty tomb, followers that believe he rose from the dead, and a Shroud that experts say was...

It was a Roman spear not a sword, and the wound in the side of the man on the shroud exactly matches that of a Roman spear, as described in the gospels. So where would they find this victim? It is. It's been shown to be from a sample not consistent with the rest of the shroud. I don't...

Correct, but he was still a director to the project and he admitted that the sample they tested was a repair patch. If anything he was probably better positioned to be able to comment on the sample that was tested than D'Muhala was.

Yes, no one is saying the test wasn't accurate, but it looks like they accurately dated a repair patch, not part of the original cloth. STURP director Ray Rogers admitted that.

Wow, you're so desperate for it to be fake, you're even prepared to ignore the evidence of impartial scientists. It was a team of scientists made up of people of all sorts of backgrounds and faiths. That was their conclusion, that it was not done by an artist, based on the fact that they deem...

The age of the shroud has been tested several times in different ways. Other methods date it to the time of Jesus. Only the 1988 test gives a different result. https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/03/30/shroud-turin-display/2038295/...

It's not my false logic. It's what the STURP said in its in its final report: We can conclude for now that the Shroud image is that of a real human form of a scourged, crucified man. It is not the product of an artist. The blood stains are composed of hemoglobin and also give a positive test for...

Not just someone who died, but someone who was crucified. We can conclude for now that the Shroud image is that of a real human form of a scourged, crucified man. It is not the product of an artist.. Did you think it was the product of an artist? According to the scientists it is not. It has a...

@Triggaaar Hello 👋 In 1981, in its final report, STURP wrote: We can conclude for now that the Shroud image is that of a real human form of a scourged, crucified man. It is not the product of an artist. The blood stains are composed of hemoglobin and also give a positive test for serum albumin...

If you accept both the conclusion of the STURP final report and the result of the radiocarbon dating test, you would have to conclude that the forger must have actually crucified someone to produce the forgery.

NO they didn't. Firstly, it wasn't a "group" that dated the sample, and the institutions that did the dating were not given any remit whatsoever to consider whether or not the patch they were testing was a repaired piece or not. They were each just sent a sample to test and that is what they...

The only evidence you have that it is fake is a piece of cloth that was repaired by Poor Clare Nuns in 1534. The Catholic Church are sitting on the fence. I give you evidence, and you refuse to look at it. Google Peter Schumacher Turin Shroud and tell me what you learn about him.

I'm sorry if I've offended him. Sorry, Psychobilly. You're back. Did you google Peter Schumacher Shroud of Turin? What did you find out about him?

I'll pray for you because I can see you need it.

God loves you and he wants to forgive you and heal you. I didn't say you had persecuted me. I was just giving examples of things Jesus taught.

Did you google about Peter Schumacher?

Tables can help to make things clear, don't you think? Do you think people are angry? Why is that do you think? It's a bit strange, isn't it? I mean, if they think it's all nonsense.

Is it indeed? And if it is, is that a bad thing? I notice you miss about the significance of this. Very selective of you: Strikingly, there was never any debate in the ancient world about whether Jesus of Nazareth was a historical figure. In the earliest literature of the Jewish Rabbis, Jesus...

It's a two-way thing. Children should obey their parents, not ignore their instructions, but parents must also be reasonable: Fathers, do not exasperate your children; instead, bring them up in the training and instruction of the Lord. We're talking about children here. I take it you expect...