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That wouldn’t work, because the trains have to terminate at Piccadilly, and have to have sufficient turnaround time, and trains need to traverse the ladder to cross through. Cancelling HS2 will screw any plans, it’s just baffling that anyone who would be pro rail would support this, there won’t...

Failing to plan for future capacity in 2033 and 2040 is what has caused an absolute mess of a system now. The infrastructure on the WCML is at bursting. You cannot sixtuple the line, that wouldn’t work, this was the way out of the capacity problem and it’s been closed again.

Because capacity is the real reason and now we have a pointless, Acton to Aston shuttle, we will not improve anything to fix capacity because there isn’t the space near Piccadilly. There will be no levelling up of train services in Manchester because there is no more room on the tracks around...

But the railway is going to have to be built eventually, and we are gonna have to have executed by someone.

Is he? I think when pushed most people in this country would like a new high speed railway between the cities of this country.

I’ll be impressed if you can get Kings Cross to Edinburgh for £80, the pricing really is a complete joke, far too expensive to be useful.

Agree, but using the Amex as an example this country is absolutely plagued with NIMBYs that complain about everything. A new timetable on the West Coastway has to go through a public enquiry despite no extra money being spent on the implementation.

Yes of course upgrades to the 140mph lines would be great, but absolutely none of that will possible without capacity increases at Manchester Piccadilly. Manchester Piccadilly has become an absolute nightmare capacity wise and trains need to terminate somewhere else. If you take out a fast...

I appreciate that, but opening up the northern and southern sections of HS2 will be the only way the North gets a proper service.

Not really 😂. Bang the nail on the head there with half completed puzzle. It just loads capacity elsewhere onto an already overcrowded tube system. We need to be looking at a way this potential capacity blockage can be dealt with, and I expect the government will do the usual of dealing with it...

Its not about speed though its about Capacity. Fast trains need longer headways, so why not give them their own route. Theres no reason we can't build HS2 and upgrade the current network, but we ultimately have a government that has to rightly or wrongly, cut costs. We need to look at railways...

We need to build it to increase capacity, but of course the media outlets constantly talk about time. From a planning perspective at current levels the WCML up to Manchester is at Capacity. Southern cut back their Milton Keynes service to Watford to Increase capacity, it needs to go up on that...