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  1. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    No good reason to believe? https://www.businessinsider.com/robert-lighthizer-trump-us-will-push-off-uk-trade-deal-with-the-uk-over-food-standards-2020-6?r=US&IR=T 'The US will not sign a free trade deal with the UK if its farmers cannot sell meat and other agricultural goods to Britain without...
  2. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    But 'theatre' implies just for show when to my mind, it wasn't. To me this is exactly what good opposition looks like when the government has such a large and obedient majority. But maybe we are talking at cross purposes.
  3. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    Are you saying that the UK public are stupid and easily manipulated by the media? It may not be 'proof' that the government never intended to maintain food standards, but it's a pretty damned good indicator. Especially given prior evidence of how dishonest they are.
  4. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    It's not 'just' political theatre though is it? It will have been designed not with any expectation that it would be successful (with the majority this goverment has, it was never going to) but to ensure that food standards, and the threat to them from a deal with the US, are widely debated and...
  5. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    This is an excellent analogy as long as: a) There was very good reason to expect that Labour would need to allow the teaching of radical left wing Marxism to primary school children in order to get a desperately (and I mean desperate) needed trade deal with the US b) Labour had included in...
  6. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    You seem like a sensible chap. Please don't fall into the false equivalence 'all as bad as each other' trap that has been set. Corbyn, and those around him had many faults. You may not have agreed with their policies or strategy. But they did not lie deliberately, knowingly and on an...
  7. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    How do you know I am not? I know enough decent politicians, that I do not take that as an automatic insult. A key aim of the 'scorched earth' Cummings strategy has been to convince us to believe the populist lie that 'they are all as bad as each other'. Which anyone with personal experience of...
  8. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    No. people start with the fact that this government has lied endlessly and blatently, and work back from there to a conclusion that we no longer believe what they tell us. You reap what you sow. Lies can only get you so far. The bigger the lies the further you may get. But they will catch up...
  9. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    The truth has indeed been damned. We know who by. And we know why. That's the heart of the problem here, not the benefits or otherwise of chlorinated chicken. This government, and those that lead it, has lied like no other before it. Blatently. Openly, Repeatedly. And without apparent shame.
  10. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    Your attempts to spin this are poor and transparent. Don't be suprised when you are called out. A lie has been flushed out. That is all that has happened here. It won't make a blind bit of difference We have this god awful, elitist, immoral, incompetent, corrupt as f*ck, government for four...
  11. highflyer

    [Politics] Safeguards on food standards have been removed.

    This is disingenuous and I suspect deliberately so. I do not believe for one nanosecond that the Tories voted the amendment down out of concern for the interests of developing countries. This would be so far out of character as to be literally unbelievable. What we ALL know has happened is...
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