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Crikey.

Unfair. That conversation has drifted. I said that I wouldn't consider them in MY personal 'Indie' pigeon hole, and that in the PERSONAL pigeon holes of my mind, they were sorted in their own seperate Baggy / Madchester genre with the Inspiral Carpets, etc. For purposes of THIS discussion they...

Are you mental, Sim? There is picture of Mark E Smith in the dictionary, next to the word 'Indie'.

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That's "George Best Plus" rather than "George Best" (see post #26). I take your point entirely, but it doesn't offend me in the same way. I'd rather have the extra tracks. A lot of people don't listen to the actual CD anyway - they'd be able to save tracks 1-12 in their iTunes, etc as George...

Destroy the Heart wasn't on the ORIGINAL version of the album, but it WAS quickly added to the later edition. It was certainly on mine!

It really, really, really wasn't you know. The debut album literally has ALL of their best songs. They never reached the angry heights of Christine, Destroy the Heart, etc again. They'd already lost something a year later, despite the commercial success of the Butterfly job, largely based on...

Might struggle with the 'last century' part. 2006?

Whatever it is, it's probably knocking about in one of the compartments of my car!

It's not even the best HoL album!

This is better

Both excellent. The Sundays one has stood the test of time, for those that don't find Harriet a bit TOO twee.

Good album. Best? No.